[see posts below on why I'm leaving Christianity]
Wow, ok so like, I am reading blog, kind of agree with the article on this book, but then something, just stood out, and then, BOOM, LIGHT GOES OFF,
why I hate this religion so much.
Here it is:
June 21, 2010 4:24 PM
Blogger JaneDoeThreads said...
ok now I know what it is that has been bothering me so much about Christianity,
it's this: Rachel may not know all the answers, but she knows the One Who does. Her life echoes my own prayer of faith to God:
I'm willing not to know, but to rest in knowing You.
And here, there is peace.
This is bunk...no, there is no peace,
look, it's our souls we're talking about, I won't follow some blanket God that I can't even know if I'm going to Heaven or Hell or not, I don't care IF HE is GOD, ok,
one I didn't ask to be created, did YOU? two, this to me sounds like WHY we see the abuse that we do, this 'oh blind faith' BUT have it anyway...to that I say,
why not just worship the beast too?
You know, we have a right to TRUTH, I don't think, Jesus is some vague mystery that plays games, I think Satan is the one that parades around playing games, the answers ARE in the book, it's getting to an understanding, that is spiritual, because our carnal Vision is so narrow, like the genocide thing, Yes, if you take just a few scriptures about Joshua you get that meaning...it's when you look at prior, like microscope, one verse, can shed light, like the one about when the Lord God, said to the angels meeting Abraham [and obviously angels were on planet then with humans] that, should we tell him what it is that I do...then he goes on to say to Abraham, IF there are ten righteous...he'll spare.
So we see some light there, what unnerves me, is when we stop, at the well we don't have the answers but oh well we'll trust anyway,
good grief, they Trusted HITLER TOO. Its no wonder, we have the Cults we do today,
we have not just the Right to Question, we have the Right to answers, why Jesus said, the Holy Spirit will Lead you into All truth,
not some truth, not MAYBE TRUTH, not a little here and not any there and why just walk in darkness groping and obeying just Any thing, because to NOT obey until you Get truth, to avoid evil, well that's just not Faith,
bull. Faith is NOT blind believing, Faith is substance, of Things Hoped for.
No, we as Individuals Don't all have the answers, why? Because we are in the Body meaning if WE don't have the answer, someone does. We need each other,
what I fear, is this growing attitude that blind faith, blind optisism, is acceptable. I don't think it is, it's one, too dangerous, it's leaves one Wide open to be exploited, deceived and heck, you could be worshiping Satan thinking, it's God.
If you Don't know the answers, KEEP ASKING, ASK, SEEK, KNOCK, IT WILL, NOT MAYBE, NOT LET'S PLAY GAMES, JESUS SAID, IT WILL,
BE OPENED UNTO YOU.
We seriously, need to dump the psychology and get deep into the Word of God...not talking Fundie here, the reason for fundie is because of this whole blind faith nonsense. My soul, is Worth more to me, than just limping along blindly, with this la de da blind faith. I want answers, if I'm to lay down my life, then by golly, I look at it this way,
if you can't answer me, then, you obviously, don't have truth, and That applies to God too. Again, none of us Asked to be here, none of us Asked for the trees, none of it, I think, the Least we can deserve, is knowing...God is just, I don't think He is the one, that has issues with us knowing.
If He does, then He would be a Hitler,
and we'd be, 'I was just following orders sir' when I threw those babies in the ovens...
no wonder, so much Genocide, has been done, in the name of
GOD.
no wonder...and people will Obey, blind faith, trusting in some invisible God through some man/government husband, that says,
do this...God says so,
and then, we got Christians saying I am alright with not having answers I'll just blindly follow.
Give me a break, if That ain't one Hell of an opiate, I don't know what is. I've seen Heroin and Meth addicts,
who have more fucking common sense.
IN THE DAY WHEN GOD SHALL JUDGE THE 'SECRETS' OF MEN, BY JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO MY GOSPEL. [Romans 2:14-16]
Jane
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8 comments:
We do not need to check our brains at the door in order to have faith. My faith is not blind...it is based upon something that is real. The evidence of His existence is clearly seen!
I am not religious...yet I do serve Yeshua HaMashiach...Jesus the Messiah.
I have been reading a real eye-opening book called Pagan Christianity? by Frank Viola and George Barna. Some of it I already knew, but this is a whole lot more...and it gives the history behind the changes that have come since the early body of Yeshua met.
It saddens me to see how twisted His teachings have become in the hands of men who may mean well, but they are straying from the truth.
Yeshua told us we would have tribulation and trials. However, there can be a deep inner peace even in spite of that. That is His Shalom...which is not like the world's idea of peace. Shalom is not being unphased by what is happening around you...I see it as knowing that nothing will happen that Abba does not either allow or cause and that He loves us and will get us through it. In the end...we His Children will be with our Creator forever.
One Survivor thank you for the book info, I will HAVE to read it,
because that has been what I've been seeing in 'nature' but I struggled with the whole anti-pagan indoctrination we hear so much in Christianity and those things were drummed into me, as young adult. It was my exposure to radical feminism eco-branch, goddess beliefs that I would see just how much I was damaged via misogyny, but due to the RA and my mother there was a barrier there so from there I went back to the Bible, long story,
[warning may trigger below, just to let you know, I've read your blog often so just to warn you]
then too many memories that are tied in to RA/ and Illuminati that you know so many Don't believe in, I was born in D.C., where it all started in 60s, and like for me, a lot of the Bible, just is very hard for me, to not like go snap snap. I have harder time I think around a lot of Christians,
the only place I can sort of relate is godlikeproductions, but I have to watch it there too, but at Least, they know of the other stuff, so like I sort through lies/truth, it's very hard, I can handle like the doctrines of do not do this, do that,
it's anything that has to do with the emotions that I always think ok I"m being manipulated, the light-dark thing, and so I do push and question, because I have to be sure, I know what it is to Think one is on right path to find out, later that they were being lead around by the dark forces, so like I am very hesitant now.
I've heard the name Yeshua HaMashiach mentioned on godlike before and so I will get this book, just too many things, you know,
don't add up, with not just the Bible but especially in what I call churchianity of the west. Something just 'off' about it, it reminds me too much of the whole Egyptian/Sumerian masonry and that, that is what messed up my mind, and my mother's who was raised in all that Catholic Mafia dark cultist crap. [back east], long history of it--and so,
yea, I am fighting it on several fronts.
Love,
Jane
Hey I did a quick review of the book, you know, I could point out about twenty things, that are pagan, in today's Christianity, or I think were assimilated into, from 300 A.D.,
if you scroll through the posts on Search for Truth, look at the one about Gold.
that was one of the things I saw, tied into the line of my life, like all the towns I have lived in, the slavery for gold in Egypt, the gold that is stored in banks today, but yea,
then look at the history of gold plundering-slavery in early church, Catholic, Spaniards slavery and Genocide in Americas to send gold to Italy [Vatican] then later, the Protestants, the guilds,
and then the gold rush in America, also a time where mass trafficking of women into sex slavery here--
so yea,
there's a whole lot more to it. Why I have difficulty in trusting, long story, right now not doing so good, esp with triggers,
but yea, Christianity, I would say, since 300 A.D. did a lot more, than just assimilate, there's something about that long gap--between Paul and the council of Nicea.
I think a lot of it, for me, is the cutting off, any of the toxins of the mind controls, and separating them from my faith, there needs to be a lot of healing, between me and Jesus, just too much damage,
because for years, I made very destructive and harmful decisions that were toxic and deadly to myself and to others, so much of it from being naive and trusting Christians, I was primed for the perfect b.d.s.m. victim,
why, even the whole take up cross, to me, is like, the whole erasure,
and it's living hell, so,
it's really a matter of life and death to me, more and more, for me to just cut ties altogether, maybe God can break through, but I don't know...
Love,
Jane
I really appreciate all you have written here, Jane. There are a LOT of people who are struggling with "churchianity" versus the real deal "Christianity" based upon the very real Yeshua/Jesus. Add to that the spiritual abuses prevalent in a "church" institution that is not what Yeshua first created. Add to that the twisting by abusers in their mixing of truths from the bible with lies from the pit. It is a pretty sorry mess, no?
Ya know...if you ever want to email me...feel free. I am a far cry from having all the answers...a far, FAR cry. But what I have uncovered in my own walk (and am still in the process of uncovering), I share freely with others.
We are all on this journey. I truly believe that those who are willing to seek Truth with truly open hearts and minds will find it. He promises that. Sometimes, it takes a lot to sift through the lies and the bondages to the truth and real freedom. And, oftentimes, we need to help one another to do that. If I can help another, I am willing.
Keep walking. Keep seeking. I encourage you to ask Yeshua's help in separating out what is of Him and what is not. I have had to do that...and He has honored my plea for help. I am asking Him again as I am learning more about His Word and how it continues to be twisted.
Blessings and shalom on your journey!
Jane, I am really interested in your thoughts. You articulate many things I feel and struggle with.
I thought a lot about the quote from the MonkeyTown book as well. I guess in a way it's exactly where I am, though. Right now all I can do is take comfort in the obvious mark of Him as creator through viewing nature.
I am personally really struggling with my background. I read a book by Bart Ehrman that basically destroyed my belief in the inerrancy of the scriptures. I honestly don't know what's what or how to ever again feel like I have any of it figured out. I came from Christian Fundamentalism, where there is an answer for questions you don't even think to ask. : P
I feel like I'm not leaving God, but I really, really can't figure out what's what anymore. I feel a lot of grief over a broken relationship with my sister, and I dread losing friends. I also feel like a hypocrite to allow them to go on thinking whatever they want to think about me. Like you, I don't want to just accept that I don't understand any of it, but I'm just going to rest anyway. I'm not wired that way. To be honest, it would be easier if I was. : (
You are a very intelligent person. I really appreciate your willingness to be so transparent and honest.
to both anon and one survivor,
I am going to be writing here, the letters from a concubine/whore because for years that was what I was, and what I learned, in those years, esp about churchianity,
the questions those years brought When reading scripture,
and the answers, I got.
It is going to be dark, I will put up a warning, it won't be sugar coated, it will be sometimes ugly and messy, but truth, knowing evil, is like that.
And that will be the first series, knowledge of good and evil...
stay tuned, because I think it will answer some questions maybe? And if not, it will I think, at least, strip away a lot of lies and illusions that I know I bought into for years,
and my search to know what real Life and Love is. And why, I didn't find them in Christianity,
not in the Word alone either, in fact the Bible did more to trigger the evil than show me, as a woman, love, and I will get into that in depth,
and then, what I did find, that helped me a lot. And why I think, it's not the Bible so much, as the way it is understood, the difference in language...
you'll see what I mean when I write the first series.
Love,
Jane
Oh, on the monkey town book,
you know, that's one of the big problems, there are too many 'books', be they religious or secular. The Problem with getting understanding spiritually from books is this:
they speak from the lens, subjective of the individual author, who has a totally different experience,
so while we can pull out and relate to a lot what an author says, we need to remember, we live in a Pluralist society, that has wide gaps between race, class, region, culture, and gender. This I think is a lot of the problem of confusion,
and lack of unity...also why there is lack of answers,
but that's only the tip of the iceberg, I'll cover this some more on the series I will be writing on.
Some of it may help/relate to both of you, a lot of it may not, because our experiences are probably not the same, one I didn't grow up in a good Christian home, and I lived a really sinful life, so, my lens is a bit more brutal when it comes to not buying into the plastic holiness, what I call it.
That has it's downsides though and I'll be getting into that too.
Jane
Thanks, Jane. I am swamped right now...but I will try to keep up as I can. :-) I may also be having to send my pc in for work. :-( However, if I do that, I will make note of it on my blog so everyone will know why I am so silent.
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