DECONSTRUCTING 'MAN'S IMAGE OF GOD [BIBLE] PROVES MUCH ABOUT GOD TO BE DESIRED YET ALSO PROVES MUCH ABOUT GOD MISUNDERSTOOD

[warning, challenge to Faith, Please do not read if this could be a Stumbling Block to you, this is my journey in finding who God is outside the Christianese BOX, Could cause doubt, not my Intent here, please Be warned--I am still searching, have Not concluded on all things, and am looking through the agnostic lens with my faith, Due to the long history of misogyny I can no longer, reconcile faith in a God whom man has corrupted and with All the evidence being revealed that disproves the Bible was inspired, but rather, a document of self serving Men/Rulers, etc., of which I find the evidence overwhelming, but to me, this does not Prove that the many scriptures are false or that there is no God just because the book might be false, just saying]  also, needs GRAMMATICAL EDITING, OF WHICH I WILL DO LATER, NOT EASY TO READ, SORRY ABOUT THIS, WILL POLISH IT MAYBE OR,


WELL JUST BEAR THROUGH...LOVE JANE

Deconstructing the Bible, and Religion, the image of God, which I believe has been in no doubt in my mind, the creation of Man, or Man's perception of God, through Nature, as well as Either-OR [emphasis on OR]

1. beings on earth who represented God, they, were termed as 'gods' and 'goddesses' in All ancient religions [excluding animist, though there are similarities, depending on animist tribe] OR

2.  Men on earth, the strongest, via violence/rape, who Took it upon themselves to justify and create a living Constitution of sorts, calling it God, or gods, in their mirror image

This includes Jesus, who scholars say, is the identical in life, story of Horus [Egypt] or a combination of numerous gods including the death, resurrection, and interestingly, no Historical E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E. of Jesus even being real, IN his time, no mention of Him by any, UNTIL way after He died, and all by Hear-say, which then, was turned into written stories. 

However, there are two things to consider here, Before deciding there is/was no Jesus,

1.  We know by fact, that those who Win wars can purge people, documents, artifacts and can Erase entire races of people or individuals, including their writing...we KNOW this, it's done all the time, To then base the lack of historical Evidence as PROOF there was no Jesus, would be Fallacy, because Stalin purged individuals plus their writings, Women's writings have been purged [and her voice] through out all time, the genocide of Native Indians wiped out complete tribes and languages, the Cambodian genocide, and so forth, Therefore it's Not illogical whatsoever to consider the very real possibility that all records of Jesus were deliberately expunged to deal with perceived or real threat, to the government/empire order and later brought back in and twisted [which I strongly believe they were including Pauline letters, where there is enough evidence to show that several books of NT were forgeries, FACT], and anyhow, twisted to create a False Jesus to maintain and preserve the Roman-Greek pantheon/empire, under a name of One...and the Fruits of such, is clear, this is at least in part, what was done...

which doesn't necessarily contradict scripture in that Paul warned of this in 64 A.D. [in letter not a forgery] and Jesus [at least hearsay] said, the gates of hell won't prevail, why say that IF he didn't know it would be attempted?

So, in this deconstruction, though I've found much proof that some of the Bible has been twisted, no doubt, that alone does in no way Prove that Jesus is not real or that God is not real...it just opens the door to question, Who truly is Jesus and/or God, if HE exists.  Maybe this is why Jesus said, the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth, not any mention of a book or Bible.

What IS interesting about the identical points of Horus [Egypt] and Jesus, is that this too, does not prove that this couldn't be possible, that maybe Jesus appeared more than once...the Native Indians also believe there was a 'white man' who appeared to them, and the Teachings of this man, are IDENTICAL to the teachings of Jesus, and the thing is, this happened on an entirely different

Continent.  Way prior to Catholicism Colonization/Slavery, which...Maybe, this was God's way, of revealing to Man, truth opposed to Man's twisting of

God for Greed [gold especially].

And since When did Christians, who we know without shadow of doubt, the Bible and the entire epoch of Christianity is so emerged with Roman-Greek-Celt paganism it's not even funny---Egyptian pantheon beliefs as well, and to Deny such, is just a blatant refusal at TRUTH.  So to hang onto the Pagan Bible depiction [esp NT] as the only truth which was written by Pagan men in 300 [who hated women, laid the foundation for inquisition, crusades, witch-hunts/holocaust/gendercide against 500,000 women] and so forth,] and who to this Day, have a history and on going merge with Mafia, Secret Societies, Occultism, PEDOPHILIA like no other [and their child mixed with Judaism being Islam, fact, and Protestant is no better, FACT],

well, leaves a lot to question, and to NOT, is to basically say, we will deny all evidence of evil Just to perpetuate the system of evil in the name of this Jesus and/or God...rather than seek TRUTH.

  Just because atheists, the ones Hostile to religion/God/Jesus use these evidential truths does not mean, the truths are invalid or should not be inquired into.  Nor does the fact that many universalis'ts or hedonists who want to use these evidences in creating a tolerance to just about any thing, mean that we shouldn't question...

the FEAR tactics no longer work on me...to KNOW someone, is to KNOW someone, and we can't KNOW someone, or any being/deity on the hearsay of MEN [esp men with a history and concurring hatred and abuse of women/children, especially when that abuse is sexual abuse and slavery, gender slavery], or any Book written by such men who laid the foundations of such...

SO, in my discovery/search for God in deconstructing the bullshit of men [and I have come to the conclusion that what the majority of MEN have written is nothing more than self-serving sexual lust bullshit of self centered men with a 'god-dick' complex], I have found some interesting things...

both in Favor of God and some in not so good Favor,

one, I'd like to bring up today, is the one huge one, about God being a murderous genocidal monster.  Let's take it from here:  from another site,  http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana.htm

Of the many passages in the Hebrew Scriptures that describe major loss of life, most were conventional wars. Four of these events would probably qualify as genocides under most current definitions of the term. They were:

	The worldwide flood at the time of Noah as described in Genesis, chapters 6 to 8. From the description, it almost completely wiped out the human race, with the exception of Noah, his wife and sons and their wives.
	The Passover incident described in Exodus chapters 11 and 12, in which all of the firstborn of all Egypt were slaughtered. This included newborns, children, youths, adults, the elderly -- both human and animal.
	The conquest of Canaan, in which God ordered the Hebrews to completely exterminate the Canaanite people -- again from the elderly to newborns and fetuses. This is described throughout the book of Joshua as occurring in Jericho and other Caananite cities.
	The near extermination of the entire tribe of Benjamin by the remaining 11 tribes, triggered by the serial rape and murder of a priest's concubine by a few Benjamites. See Judges, chapter 20.

The first three of the above genocides have at least three factors in common:

	The Bible explains that God was primarily responsible.
	Many liberal Christians, liberal Jews, historians and biblical archaeologists believe that all three are religious myths -- stories of great spiritual significance about events that never actually happened.
	Jewish and Christian conservatives generally believe in that the authors of the Bible were inspired by God and thus their writings are inerrant. They believe that the genocides happened exactly as described in the Bible.

OK, I'd like to deconstruct this/or give answer too...to Rely on these, as the means to conclude that God of the Bible, OT is nothing more than a genocidal monster, we must look at the other points of these stories,

and in doing so, I think I can prove, that in all the cases listed, at least all But the Canaanites, that God was NOT committing Genocide, but was in fact, Intervening to PREVENT MASS GENOCIDE AND EXTINCTION OF 'HUMAN RACE'...

see the good thing about deconstructing, is that you can find other truths often glossed over, when searching for Truth...to deny or avoid looking at the Hard Questions, to maintain some SUPERIORITY OF BELIEF as many Christians [fundie woman haters and gods slavery worshipper's/right wingers] are hell bent on doing, does more to give ammo to the God haters, SO,

let's see, the first, the genocide of the earth, via the deluge.  Yes, IF you look at the deluge in of itself, it would obviously be horrendous...but you see, they leave out a very [well several] important FACTS prior to the deluge,

one being, the most important one, is that the earth was corrupted [meaning the nature of earth/animals corrupted by the evil] and that VIOLENCE WAS ALL OVER, meaning, that the

Violence was So great, the imagination of man So evil that it Grieved God who created mankind...the Only man thought righteous by God, was a man who walked with God and interestingly, a man who the animals felt comfortable with [those not corrupted] to themselves, come to this man, and seek refuge, in a boat, to escape the violence of mankind and the protection of their Creator.  So let's look at the scripture and do some deconstruction through Objective lens, shall we...Genesis 6 [6 being number of man, if you are one to see God through physics/mathematics] 7-22, PAY ATTENTION TO HIGHLIGHTS IN BOLD,

⁷And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

 ⁸But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

 ⁹These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.  [little note here, in all cases, I have read, when it says, Perfect in his generation, this does not mean, perfect human/sinless, but perfect in comparison to the evil around, this may explain why Lot, vexed in soul/afflicted, offered his daughters in a society where sexual violence/greed was so common even little children wanted to rape the angels...NOT that offering his daughters was righteous, but IN comparison, to the evil around, it was nothing compared to the evil, when children, are raping, as the story says, the men young and old, came to gang rape the angels, That shows, the level of sin/evil being So abundant that even children, are corrupted, just saying]

 ¹⁰And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

 ¹¹The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.[note:  VIOLENCE NUMBER 1 MENTIONED]

 ¹²And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

 ¹³And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.[little note, notice the earth filled with violence Through them, this might be the reference to the Nephalim???--VIOLENCE NUMBER 2 MENTIONED]

 ¹⁴Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

 ¹⁵And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

 ¹⁶A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

 ¹⁷And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

 ¹⁸But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

 ¹⁹And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

 ²⁰Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. [little note, Notice, the animals will Come to Noah, to keep them 'alive'...so the animals know, that is how Bad the violence was on the earth...]

 ²¹And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

 ²²Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

This story btw, has much in common and Validates, the beliefs of Native Americans and the belief that we, have a duty, to respect and honor both Mother Earth and Father Sky, the Animals and all living things in our relationship to them as well as each other.  Could it be, the Native Indian walked with God?  [pssst, I believe so, white man, as they warned, in their white man religion, were wrong]

Anyhoooo, the using the flood as the evidence that God is a genocidal monster, FAILS, if Anything, mankind was the genocidal monster [and Bible also refers to the Nephalim, giants, the result of Sons of God/angels/fallen angels maybe, with the Daughters of MEN, not sons of men with daughters of men, but Sons of God with Daughters of Men, those Nephalim were giants...we know these giants, were also again, both mentioned in Genesis and through out Old Testament, this May explain the wars of Canaan.  This is not hard to believe, in that, in Other religions, Sumerian, Babylonian, Asian, etc., there are artifacts, such as in Iraq, that show, images of 'gods' that are half reptile and half human.  Just saying....Onto next case,

Oh one more thing...when those who bring up the flood to say, God commits genocide, etc., how could a loving God kill babies, so forth, IF the earth was so filled with violence, to the extent that even the animals sought refuge, there most likely Wasn't any babies around...remember, the Nephalim, in other religions, the depictions of, state they consumed all, including human flesh via famine due to the mass consumption of crops, etc., we see references to this in the story of Gideon...not to say, this is matter of fact, just to say, we Must take that into consideration, the strong possibility, if we are to put God or Bible on trial, at least, in the literature sense of the word...

The story about the firstborn in Egypt, I don't want to clog this up with Bible texts, but they Forget the fact, that prior to this, the Hebrews or Israel, were kept in bondage for 4oo years AND that several times, the Pharaoh had Every, firstborn child of the Hebrews killed.  Even prior to the leaving, or Exodus, when Moses confronted Pharaoh and said let the people go, the Pharaoh increased the labor and the young were Perishing...also, women/girls were sex slaves, etc., FACT., [look up the story and read the whole thing yourself], SO to call this a Genocide is False....when in fact, it was retribution, Unless one thinks, it's justifiable to slaughter the firstborn of Jews.  Let's keep this in mind...so to label God as a genocidal monster based on this story is pure falsehood...and IF we do so, then we must also, take the same blame, for every murder of every one in any war.  Including our own penal system...life for life.  So genocide no, IF you want to argue, the righteousness of God on this case, then the argument would be over the Death Penalty for CRIMES against Humanity, as the Pharaoh committed a Huge crime against the Women/Mothers of Hebrews by slaughtering THEIR FIRSTBORN, ENSLAVING THEM, AND KILLING THEM THROUGH CONCENTRATION CAMP TYPE SLAVERY FACT, I won't Even go into the sex slavery,

or NO, I will, because this goes into the Next accusation,

the tribes of Benjamin, whom the author here accuses God of genocide because of the slaughter, against, them for gang raping a young concubine/woman until she literally, died.

 Let's go back, and pull that scripture up, to See what transpired, with the leaders of the 12 tribes, prior to deciding whether or not to go to war over this CRIME, and it shows something Very interesting,  highlighted in Bold, Judges 19:25-30  [note, concubines had no value to man in that day, just like men/society see nothing wrong with rape/entertainment of rape/torture of thousands of nameless prostitutes and sex slaves today, let's keep that in mind]

²⁵But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.

 ²⁶Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.

 ²⁷And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.

 ²⁸And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place.

 ²⁹And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.

 ³⁰And it was so, that all that saw it said, There was no such deed done nor seen from the day that the children of Israel came up out of the land of Egypt unto this day: consider of it, take advice, and speak your minds.

This is the KEY here, to understanding God's swift reaction, Which included the deaths of many Israeli men who probably didn't treat their women nice...as we will see a hint of, in scripture below...but point here being, that RAPE was unheard of, in all the time after they left Egypt, but RAPE was common place in Egypt, as we see in this story as well as the other numerous stories of Egypt in OT, in reference to the fact that Kings or Pharaoh's, in the days of bondage, used the women [why they said to kill firstborn Hebrew son but not female] forth  sex slaves as well as I'm sure, population numbers--a form of genocide, similar to what was used in Bosnia, mass rape as weapon but also to clean or ethnically clean a people, which BTW, the Catholics did same thing when they colonized South America, 

rape is a cultural/race ethnic cleansing too, in other words...by usurping the seed of one race over another, race wars through Rape.  Which at that time, Egypt was obviously doing, see story of Abraham/Sarah, he Knew Egypt, Pharaoh would request his wife for her beauty, to keep as sex slave...so this as well as secular history, has been proven, women were chattel, in other words...Anyhow, EVEN with the common treatment of women, as sex chattel spermicide vagina landfills [sorry, truth],

the crime of 

RAPE against a nameless concubine God couldn't tolerate,

so to say this was genocide is not only false, it's ludicrous.  Also, keep in mind, the last verse in Judges, which says, in chapter 21

²⁵In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

This obviously, shows that this epoch, was a time of individualism and that Man did what was right in HIS own eyes, HIS own mind,

kind of like TODAY.

So, two references, that show that God was not a monster here, on the contrary, HE was the only one, who saw the RAPE of a concubine already in a society where women had no value, as a CRIME, and a CRIME to be AVENGED.

This may not fall popular with the majority of MEN today, both religious and secular who feel Justified, like the men of Judges, to not only rape, rape through using scriptures or Other religions/via force, but also to get off on entertainment of such rapes, via PORN.

As for the Canaanites, there is much to be pulled here, taking practically the entire Old Testament here, before deconstructing that, because of several things,

the wars prior to Abraham between kings, which could be the angels on earth in those days [also according to other religions, such as Nimrod being a god, Pharaoh, the kings of Sodom, etc., and I do not have enough knowledge on those beliefs Yet to do a fair deconstruct] and also, the references numerous times to Giants, half human/half angel or other being...in OT that also, are in other religions, etc.,

so, Unless we know full details of such, using all sources, it's then an unfair accusation to say, that God is a genocidal monster.

While yes, as this site says, and I myself have questioned God on this numerous times, and I can't say, I concur with HOW God metered out justice [particularly to women, this is where I have strong disagreements with said God, women had no power, therefore to take violence out on women's bodies [as they do Still today, Congo ring a bell], is to me, an unfair and misogynist crime...then again, IF those women had been spared, they would have starved to death or killed by beast, we Forget the environmental climate of that day with beasts, even today, in desolate places in Africa it's extremely dangerous for man, much less woman, take many women with children, no jobs no, like today, in a war, left alone, they would have died slow horrible deaths, possibly, NOT saying this to be matter of fact, or they would have been left vulnerable to being used as sex slaves in other tribes far more violence, we must take this into consideration, these were in fact, barbaric times...as well as primitive.  

That all aside, this in no way means, that the groundwork, for or of the Commands to go in, and butcher, does not in of itself present a very real problem for the still ongoing justifications used by  many 'wanna be gods' men who HAVE committed genocide using the very Same justifications,

and that, for this reason, IF we cannot take these examples apart, and either answer for them, or hold accountability or debate them, then what we really are doing, is being or perpetuating the Indifference,

to genocide as well as other human rights crimes and atrocities.  

 Therefore, my conclusion is, Just because the groundwork is IN the Bible, does in no way mean, it's Ethical, or right,

and we Must, work on eliminating All forms of violence especially those forms that have been justified on the basis or notion of moral or racial or gender SUPERIORITY, on the premises that GOD or gods said so...

more on this, later to come,

Jane