A DISCUSSION, I REPLIED TO HURTING WOMAN/ABUSE VICTIM, see why at end, religion, abuse and bdsm, I am Old Crone7
OLD CRONE7
If you can, get on GLP and look up Ritual Abuse, in churches, and look for Sandy. She posted an online book about the RA going on in churches, I mention this, because I myself am a survivor [which you never really survive, it's a daily deprogramming process due to the trauma and mind control] but anyhow, there is also, http://www.gregoryreid.com/id2... [ritual abuse in churches] and then there is, http://www.crasurvivors.com/, surviving/healing from Christian Ritual Abuse. And yes, it IS OCCULT. And it is spiritual and mind control abuse, just like any cult...and no, one doesn't get free from it from a magick wand, wishing it away or by positive thinking.
These 'cults' seek out former abuse victims using the same psychology that BDSM cults use, and the same methods and rituals. This is what is SO DAMAGING about being ensnared by these types of pastors/churches/cults is that the rituals and mind control compound the early childhood abuse and in fact these methods are all spawned by the same cults that go way back in time, they've just gotten better at sanitizing it. A lot of the damage caused won't even surface until later, much of it is covered up by rage and anger, and that in of itself is hell to walk through.
So many people don't believe that ritual and mind control abuse happen in churches but in fact this is one of the main places that occult type of abuses can and do occur, because they are the least suspected. These abuses, same methods, are also carried out in the secular fields, why if you are an abuse survivor [esp sexual] you have to be very careful as to where you go for help, because when you're vulnerable the wolves so to speak seek out those very avenues where they know there will be victims they can 'exploit' for their own power needs and obsessions. There are some good websites, on Botkin Syndrome, which is a form of heavily indoctrinated mind control through use of religion that contributes to heavy child and domestic violence including sadistic creation of sex slaves [those forced births are all about that too] and the long lasting effects from these, can yes, lead and/or cause DID, and other long term and permanent psychological damage.
To trivialize pain is in fact a form of mind control that is used for several reasons, one is to protect the 'facade' of cult power, particularly of the leadership, another is to create a dependency that will allow the programmers to set up mind alters that they can manipulate for further control, and yes, usually there is a a lot of group control and MONEY involved.
While all religions have some of these variables, there are those that are STRICTLY about mind control and are cults, and sad to say they are growing in the dominion movement, anyway, they do share similar methods and signs, one being that I noticed right off [recall I am a RA survivor] is the use of counseling to penalize and criminalize [in spiritual means] victims of abuse, often they'll focus on a few texts [cherry pick] on forgiveness that create a feeling of GUILT on the victim rather than address the wrong behavior of the perp/or perps, that is to create a deeper alter inside the victim through a type of mental abuse trauma, violating trust then building it up [this is fake] then tearing it down again, and it's this way in which then they use the group think to further control/policing behaviors until they get you to the place where you won't question and any 'abuse from them' you will blame your self or attribute this to some 'god is testing me' or what have you,
and this is how they do this. It works just like any other cult, that depends on tearing you down [de-individualization], rebuilding you into their image or shell [shells is very dangerous, why women are notorious for being victimized using the submissive scriptures] and then policing you until they literally control your mind. Again, I am referring here to churches that have some heavy occult rituals that work just like in the other types of mind control cults...and another similarity is their obsession with women submitting to all types of degrading sexual abuse. This is done through silencing and shaming women who come forward with abuse, sexual abuse, dv and child abuse, and why counseling can yes, be in fact, dangerous.
Many in the church may avoid the more serious abuses because they are not the 'intended targets', remember, these leaders target prior victims and today child abuse, sexual abuse, bdsm and other abuses are increasing in epidemic numbers against women and children in the churches. In Africa these abuses are full blown sacrifices...those occur here too but are more sinister in how they cover them up.
Look up 'spiritual abuse', there are numerous survivors who are forming blogs addressing this issue and you are not alone. Find groups you can trust, I myself look for other RA victims because the exploitation is so rampant, against former abuse victims. Churches, is one of the most dangerous ones this occurs...the mental health is another. [esp for women, people of color and the poor].2 people liked this.- "BDSM cults", "sadistic creation of sex slaves [those forced births are all about that too]", "bdsm and other abuses" ....
You've been reading nonsense. The BDSM/leather crowd are into consent from all parties and "safe, sane, consensual" activities. Too bad the religious aren't as careful.6 people liked this. - Unlike religion, those involved in BDSM have a safe word and when they choose to use it, all activities stop and the dom makes sure the sub is safe and unharmed. The submissive is the one with the power, for they are the ones that control how much is done for how long. As Jim said, "safe, sane and consensual." BDSM is all about consensual relationships. I do not appreciate your implying that BDSM is some sort of sex-slavery cultish crap. That is something purely in the realm of the mentally unstable and the religious.5 people liked this.OLD CRONE7 REPLY TODAY:
bullcrap...the RA I experienced was in fact both in religion and the occult/bdsm, so, yea, like the power mongers in Churches, the same is true in BDSM cults, which btw, some of the main ones are founded and spear headed by JESUITS,
I know the occult, don't EVEN go there, I live the hell every day, and the safe word,
LOL, yea, like prayer, until one day that safe word don't mean squat. This is one survivor/victim that you won't silence, I know the truth, as do many others that were able to ESCAPE, that's not including the females I know who are now DEAD, due to the porn/occult/bdsm world.
Save the lies for the gullible, as far as I'm concerned because I have lived it, the church RA and the Occult/Secret Society/Porn and BDSM RA are the same damn thing, and the heavily secret groups, it's not a shocker that they both operate in the same world, white and black magick, religion being part of that,
born in D.,C., ritual abuse in the 60s through 90s, father a Templar Grand Knight, priest at the parish committed suicide, mother and her side of family heavily involved in sorcery, gambling and prostitution, both involved in secret societies and occult including my father's side, work for offices in US government, FDA being one of them
and I remember, especially the hospital visits when I had my stomach pumped from the poisons given me, I also remember the forced starvations, locked in dark rooms [and all prior to seven years of age but it didn't end there] and the sexual abuse/mind control that lasted for years including bdsm, and I KNOW it goes on in the churches, esp among the affluent.
Not only do I know, I have the documents/medical records and a spine disease now because of it, save the DISMISSALS for the ignorant...like many survivors, we are used to being trivialized, dismissed, esp by the bdsm/pedo wank club,
it's numbers [gambling world works on numerology just like religion does] and this crap is and has happened in the state gov, penal system-esp juvenile, foster care, religions/churches [power gets info on political enemies through the use of mind controlled slaves/esp sex both in religion and in the underworld/meaning black market],
and children are the commodities, women. And yes, it's a family thing, generational, and it's profit-power driven, obviously, it Does happen, it's increasing, and becoming more 'normalized' especially through court decisions. It's a big RACKET,
and it's all in the churches/religions. And that includes pagan and other belief systems, even in military. Exploitation thrives on abuse victims and the vulnerable, and dismissing them is just the typical 'like religion' behavior of placating the mirage--of 'oh but, but WE don't do that here'
yea, I see the b.s. and I raise it to 'let's uncover and talk truth', but oh, wait,
I know this one all too well, "oh, dear, that wasn't abuse, or painful, you just didn't submit or relax enough or you know you like it", tick tock tick tock, the power voice says, or, drug em till they are too foggy to remember...
mind control, SLAVERY is all about mind control, be it for some sexual need to dominate by some power nut or be it for some pastor/cleric/rabbi to dominate for the same,
and always, the victims are silenced and the detractors come out. Just like
amen brother.
same ole same ole, it's no coincidence that the Witch Hunts and Satanism/obsession was from same source of the Christian world of Papacy, the Rule of the Fathers, Domination, 'multiply and have dominion', sons...
and of course, burn those females.
and if that don't work to shut her up....chalk it up to hysteria. Or demon possession, black white chessboard,
pawns are used same way. As a survivor who lives with the hell every day, let me assure those who may be destracted or duped into believing that control and abuse are normal, or safe, [the ole 'trust me through the darkness you'll RESURRECT' Ha],
is acceptable in some, not in other areas, it's the SAME THING, IT'S CHILD ABUSE, RAPE AND TORTURE, DOMINATION AND IT THRIVES ON CREATING 'MIND CONTROL' VICTIM who are incapable of making EMPOWERED 'NO' DECISIONS, because to Do so, is to incure the wrath,
and if you don't believe me, do some research on spiritual abuse/mind control and then the creation of sex slaves, those expert books you can buy from the experts who have studied these techinques, many founded in the JESUITS,
that's RELIGION.
Jesus used a safe word too--in religion it's called 'Repent', or "Wait on the Lord',
just ask the thousands of DEAD CHILDREN AND DEAD WOMEN. [and that includes the female victims in the bdsm world]
IT'S THE SAME CRAP, and ANY MAN who says, that the pain or experience that women/survivors feel/have/are traumatized as 'not relevant'
is no different from the PREACHER WHO SAYS, 'OH IT'S NOT OUR CHURCH' or 'it's just THOSE BAD APPLES'...
same damn thing and those who know the trauma in these worlds, know how the denial works. And our voices are growing and getting louder...
btw the priest, over the parish where my father was grand knight, committed suicide 2007, after allegations of child sexual abuse--D.C., RA s HUGE IN D.C. AND VIRGINIA,
both in churches and in secular, streets, brothels, etc., run by the same thugs--$$$$$--so
Jim Jones, I know the People's Temple, been there done that, and drank the kool-aid, almost died, several times,
but nice try.
END OF REPLY
WHY I AM POSTING THIS HERE...
Every now and then I post on sites, and I posted to a hurting woman abused in a church...and immediately after mentioning how cults work, including
BDSM CULTS, the detractors went to work. As a survivor/who lives with the hell trauma, this shit pisses me off like no other, because the abuse/bdsm/mind control in both religion AND in the sex industry world destroyed many parts of my soul and I am still trying to piece together and dealing with the trauma, fear, nightmares, horrors that most wouldn't grasp [RA, or Ritual Abuse/Satanic Ritual abuse]. And to let you know just how BRAINWASHED our misogynist sexual addiction to rape society has become, no one notices that the first detractor goes by the name of JIM JONES,who says BDSM is not a cult, uh, Hello, anyone, do we not recall Jim Jones and the People's Temple and SUICIDES...and bdsm is not a cult because it has a safe word, BULLSHIT, you know, man...they still using that crap, religion has a safe word too--LOL,let me assure you, it's all the same shit and does the same damn permanent damage folks. Anyway, whether or not they allow my reply to Jim justifying rape/torture and the other nutbag, probably not, so I saved it to post it here. For your info, the bdsm cult is heavy now in the juvenile penal system and in foster care--it won't be long until they do actual sacrifices IN PUBLIC, not just in secret, it's coming, and I'm terrified to say, the majority like the people who walked by the death camps daily in WWII Germany, will buy into the mind control. And the victims will be demonized, silenced and disappear,the techniques in mind control/bdsm are also heavily used in the mental health P harma industries on both women/children, including shock treatments [on children as young as 2 in Australia, it's the next big thing, chemical and electrical restraints so they won't fight rape]...to normalize pedophilia and rape...and for assholes to say, bdsm is not a cult--TO THEM I SAY,A BIG FUCK YOU. I KNOW BETTER.
OH, AND I'M DISABLING COMMENTS BECAUSE THIS, OBVIOUSLY WILL GET SLAMMED AND ATTACKED BY THE BDSM CULT SOUL ASSASSINS [WHO LOOK TO SHUT US UP BECAUSE THEY WANT 'NON THINKING' FUTURE VICTIMS AND TRUTH IS THREAT TO THESE TYPES],
I AM DISABLING COMMENTS, THAT'S MY SAFE WORD..RESPECT IT, YOU RAPING - TORTURING PIECES OF SHIT. BE YOU DOING IT IN CHURCH, RELIGION, SECRET SOCIETIES OR IN SOME CLUB, I DON'T CARE,
I KNOW HOW YOU WORK, WHO YOU ARE, AND I FUCKING CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOUR TYPES DESTROYED FOR THE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS YOU HAVE DESTROYED.
THIS IS FROM DISCUSSION ON: http://new.exchristian.net/2012/02/when-will-it-stop-hurting.html
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