When the Needle Is More Powerful than the Pen and Sword though Sometimes You Need Both!

photo taken from awesome blog, found in my embroidery batch--see for more photos, she takes amazing photos,

http://gunnelsvensson.blogspot.com/2009/12/happy-new-year-2010.html

Anyway, so I'm browsing through the embroidery blogs, after posting 'my rants' on several Christian feminist blogs--one in particular where I just aaarrrrgh, after reading aNother 'justification' for men's crap--with that whole 'women submit and fear' garbage,

you know, I JUST don't have the tolerance for it anymore, I seriously don't...now that is NOT very Christian, granted, its not walking in the Spirit, but you know, it IS honest--I just don't have the tolerance for the bunk anymore--and in fact, I find myself getting really Furious, when I read WOMEN standing up for MEN who abuse, for Whatever reason, and then they say, they are not for tyrants,

Plaleese, IF you are saying that women 'provoke' a man to anger/wrath then yes, baby, you are standing up for Tyranny, because you know something, there IS no justifiable reason for a MAN TO ABUSE A WOMAN--period.

And all this 'fear thy husband' and all that other twisted crap [and it IS a twisting of Scripture] is just that, Crap--not only that, there are Millions of raped and/or raped and dead women AND CHILDREN all over this world and through out Time Thanks to that stupid mentality,

I simply have no tolerance for it anymore. Its the equivalent of justifying Slavery, in this day and age--so Why the hell, do we continue to justify the abuse of women, for Whatever reason, the normalizing of male violence to women and all that--in This day and age? As far as I'm concerned, there IS no reason--its Insanity and well, it just is insanity. Its one thing, for men to spew that dung, sort of Expect it from them, after all, they benefit from the mass male terrorism against All women,

but when Women do it--under this 'guise of piety', it makes me WANT TO PUKE, seriously...they are either very ignorant or just plain Stupid or worse--callous And stupid.

So, well, anyway, yea, NOT very Christian but you know, if Christian means, tolerance to Evil, then well, I suppose then, I'm not a good Christian,

but then, I can see a scene in nature or read the Word [without the traditional 'religious misogynist lens--that tick tock orange fascist crap] and realize, that Jesus didn't stand for that type of Warped thinking either,

its Humans, who Warp God and who Warp the Bible and who Lust for Power and Dominance.

Ever notice, how in nature, God gives LIFE, the TREE of LIFE--

not the tree of death. That is what humanity partook of, and no, NOT just Adam and Eve either, every time we partake of the Knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL, doesn't just say, good only or evil only but BOTH, well, we partake in more of death do we not? What is so Hard though--is How to walk in that Tree of LIFE, and get out of that whole tree of death part,

can we Even do it? For me lately, its been very difficult, if not impossible, when all around me, is nothing But the tree of death--nastiness and hate, so much hate, without going into detail, I deal with hatred every single day--and well, I guess I'm at a breaking point right now where I just don't have tolerance for it--Especially how so many today, say we are to 'submit' to that evil garbage,

HOW can one obey God, a Holy God, and submit to EVIL? Does that make sense to you? It sure as heck doesn't to me, so Something is amiss there--but you know, God is awesome,

just yesterday, cleaning out some things, I find an old paper with a scripture on it, from Amos, something about 'two can't walk together if they are not agreed',

so, if one is following evil and the other good, well, to walk together, to be in this perfect submitted harmony, if its the one following the 'good' that is ordered to submit, then that one following good would then have to submit and do evil--to walk in agreement.

Somehow, I can't see God saying, oh, if you are under 'leadership' or 'authority' then you must submit and do evil--to be right with ME, a Holy God,

well, gee, if That be the case--then every single Nazi was only doing Good then, by golly, they were Just following Orders, Right?

But we have a church today, that tells women, over and over, you must Submit even if its 'evil' [true blind submission would require that] so if hubby demands you to worship Satan, according to the obsessive 'submission' scriptures, you must then submit and worship Satan too,

I mean, am I crazy, or what?

Hell, if That be the case, Why then wait for an authority to demand you to submit to evil--why not just do evil anyway?

IF its o.k. in one instance, why not in another?

Well, of course, that would be crazy now wouldn't it? But today, this is becoming more of a norm belief, and NOT just in religious world either--its like, is there even any Lines anymore between good and evil?

Its all becoming more blurred and well, just screwed up...but for some reason, when I look at nature, I don't see nature being that way, there seems to be some Clear defined Rules, even IN a fallen world,

so then, what does That say to us? IF we are to be like His Image--in His likeness, are we to be or 'do' evil then, under certain conditions? I don't Believe so--

no way--because Then that would be saying, that God demands evil, and James is says, God does NOT tempt us with Evil,

therefore, if those in leadership or supposed authority over us demand us to submit to evil, then Whose image, are we then, following?

I don't believe its God's, no way...

Yes, Jesus was obedient unto Death--the submission zealots Love to use that one, but they forget, ONE very very important part of that Whole context,

Jesus, WAS WITHOUT SIN.

In other words, Jesus yes, submitted, unto God's will, unto Death, even, but He did NOT sin--or do Evil.

Not once.

There is a Huge difference there--in submitting to God, no matter what--even under Authority, without committing Sin, and then,

submitting to do Sin--under authority that is Claiming God says you must obey me, etc.

Why, if That were the case, then when authority says, bow down to such and such--then it would be o.k. to do just that, but NO where, in Bible, does it Ever say, that we are 'excused' from bowing down to other 'gods', NOWHERE,

no matter What the authority. That includes, to Sin--bowing down to other gods also means to willfully sin.

So I think--the measuring line is simple--is it something that God Himself would do? IF not, then we are NOT to do it,

no matter what or Who we are under authority too. IF Jesus didn't do it, neither are we supposed to do it. We do sin--if we say we don't, we lie [John], and I have sinned--a LOT, not bragging, just saying...because one, its true and two, well, I'm ashamed to admit it, but I do sin, I do fall, I do screw up, a LOT--wish I didn't, but I do,

but it doesn't matter if I do it because I'm provoked or if I'm under someone or if I just had a bad day...sin is sin, and its wrong, and God hates it. So, if God hates sin--He would not say, oh, btw, you're a woman, if your husband says you are to sin OR to partake in his sins, well you do it, etc.,

then on the other hand, say, if you do these things without repenting they'll send you to hell,

uh, sort of a double message there, ya know...and IF I listen to religious people, including a lot of dummy women [sorry, like I said, my tolerance level is at zero today] well, then,

I'd be one confused girl.

But I look at this big tree with this little tree and think--no, we are to Be in Christ, like Christ, male, female, married or single, doesn't matter, and yes, we are to serve and submit--I believe submission has more to do with serving--but we are NOT to sin, Ever,

no exceptions. [though lying is a sin--but Rahab lied and protected the spies--but I think, that is a different thing, that I won't get into here, its Still not submitting to do evil however]

so well anyway--it seems that when I get my eyes and ears on Religious folk, I get messed up in the head and start thinking and doing really screwed up things,

when I turn all that off, and focus on God and His Word and seeing Nature--I get a whole different outlook,

and different attitude. Its keeping IN that thinking/vision though, that I find I have trouble with--and maybe that is MY own sin nature--that lures me away, something else in James, where it says, we sin when we are Drawn away by our own natures, my paraphrase,

so, well--hmmmmm,

the image--which tree do I image after, the Tree of Life, or the Tree of Death?

And I suppose, lately, its been the tree of death--and that I think--its time, to get OUT of that, and back into the Tree of Life,

and start, living again.

Can't partake of both--tried, it just doesn't work....besides, that whole dying thing, sort of sucks...its miserable. It just plain, sucks.

And I hate it...and I am finding, the more I am not just in that tree of death but Around those that relish staying in that tree of death--that its toxic and well, it just wears me down--a lot, so now, I question,

God, How in the world, do I stay in the Tree of Life, in a world, that is so full, of the Tree of Death? Especially when, it seems that on some days, that tree of death, is so much stronger in me, than the Tree of Life?

That is where I am at, now....yea, going through somewhat of a nihilist stage at this time--been here before, and I do so not like it--but well, its like this, like I told Jesus the other day, I know what the Word says, I know, the Wilderness, so forth, the whole thing with doubt, unbelief, tempting God, so forth,

I also know, the ugly reality I see, Especially in those so called Christian circles [men esp, they are the worst] and the reality and not just a few years but its 2009...this is the world I see and live in Daily--I'm not magical, I'm not of super strength, I'm not of this super power, etc etc etc.,

and this is what I see, hear, live with every single day, With all my sins/failures in addition too--no matter How much I pray, how much I strive, all in all, it comes down to the human frailty and well, this increase of iniquity and evil, that well, I think, the apostles would be rolling in their graves, literally, the people of that epoch, if they could see us today,

but I'm guilty, GUILTY, just as much as I see it everywhere and with everyone else I just as Guilty and blood stained--very much so,

and I'm questioning more--what it Truly is, to be Christian--to be Born Again, to be in Christ? I don't think--I really KNOW it, not really, and I don't believe what the church is spewing, that they know it either, I think 99% of today's church teachings are LEAVEN...just as horrid as the LEAVEN OF HEROD,

and yet, in my own battles and struggles I am in NO place to judge either--long story, won't go into all the details but one thing that Does keep coming to my mind, over and over and over,

I have Got to change Drastically my Own life--behavior, actions, Works--drastically, change them drastically--towards Christ--100%, and in no way, even close to what the churches are spewing--at the same time--not being angry or hating them either [I need some work there, having patience, etc, yea, I admit it--I am very sucky at that, seriously I am, I want mercy but I am terrible at having mercy for others--very cynical there--I have my reasons, I've learned well from the cruelty from others, in intimate ways, always in the intimate, but that Still doesn't justify my own, know what I mean],

well, but anyway, wrestling with God again--wish I could say, I'm just all in faith with no doubt, but actually, find myself the opposite, more nihilistic and negative and well, just doubt--lots of doubt,

so its back and forth again On the teeter totter--arrrgh, But one thing though, I am finding, more This time, than ever before--I have GOT to hang on to who God is, who Christ is, and Christ is NOT what these religious folk are--not even, no where close, so I have Got to hang onto that--and literally, seriously, shut my ears and close my eyes, to all the other,

I wonder, if that what is means, to keep the 'eye' single and pure? Maybe so--we see through a glass darkly Paul says, John says if we hate our brother we are IN darkness,

but where do we draw line between hate of brother/sister and hate of evil? Evil that is done? Can we hate evil? Well, it does also say, to hate evil, to abhor evil, to cleave to what is good,

so, in today's world, the latter days--how do you cleave to what is good when so much evil is deemed as good and good evil?

A 'little' leaven leavens the whole lump Jesus said, been thinking on that A LOT lately--what is, a little leaven?

What is leaven? I did hear, that little voice, other day, when I was questioning some of my replies to some of the more hostile to Christian types, that voice said, 'beware of the leaven of the Pharisees AND of Herod',

that means, the Religious AND the anti-Religious.

Hmmmm....well--if That weren't enough, then there is my own crappy nature to contend with--and its pretty crappy....

well--without going into all of this, besides wouldn't know how to explain even if I tried, Paul did say, to avoid arguments about the 'law' and well, it seems I keep getting into them, dumb dumb dumb...or maybe its that ole nature, James speaks of--why can't I just let it go, and let them all, just be?

Its not like, I can change the world--yea, maybe I need to do more observing of nature, less of people, and do far more praying...a LOT more praying,

in meantime, as for writing, I need to get back into writing about the cotton--that last post, on Egyptian Cotton, got me to thinking--because Egypt IS one of those nations where child slavery, of cotton, is huge industry,

so, next post--lets start, on that issue again...That, and I saw a really awesome OLD United Nations [before they changed] film the other day on TCM, about farming and land, Mexico and well--it reminded me of what I really wanted to do with my life,

relief work--to feed, water, clothe people, and well, I still want to do that--why I started this blog to begin with, its where my heart has Always been--anyway, there were some really awesome things in that film--things this world today, I think, has forgotten,

and well, one thing the man in film kept saying, is Howdy Neighbor, let me help you, help yourself...

so, going to focus on that, next few months--on projects, where that is Exactly, what is being done. We need more of that--don't you think, and well, how can we do this in our own personal lives? In the Will of God that is?

later, Jane

later,

Jane

press images from the Schirn Gallery, THE CONDITIONS OF PEASANT FARMERS, CHINA....SEE THE BLOG LISTED BELOW, FOR MORE DETAILS.

Twice today, I tried to write here in regards to the class differences that I notice when browsing through so many of the art blogs. Blogs that I love to look at, they are inspiring, beautiful, uplifting,

but at the same time--they are surreal to me.

I could not put it into words, and I was browsing and I stumbled upon this...it says, what I feel in my heart--about a lot of things. So,

here goes, I am posting the link at the bottom, the blog these photos were posted on with her summary, these photos were photos of a museum exhibit--art exhibit, sorry, that is the portrayal of the reasons for the Cultural Revolution in China..I have studied the conditions in China before Mao--and they Were horrid, as they were in Russia.

I believe, that these artworks, show the Truth, about the reality, the lives, of millions, and they really, don't need words.

The exhibit is called the Rent Collection Court....

http://www.sew2speak.com/archives/2009/11/29/rent-collection-courtyard/

To the side bar, I have a section for Kathie Kollwitz,

here is one of her works...called Hunger.

If you are not acquainted with Kollwitz, may I suggest you take a look here...I first learned of her back in my early days working in activism, when doing research on women artists. Her art works need no explanation,

enough said. Kollwitz-Hungry Kids

SEE ALSO

http://graememitchell.com/blog/kathe-kollwitz-wrenched-my-heart

more on art and art portraying real life, later this week.

Jane

This was So good, that I am sharing it here on Christmas Day, from Submission Tyranny, a brilliant blog, from author Waneta Dawn. With the increase of 'misogynist' warped teachings in many a church pulpit today, IF one does not read the Word for themselves, they would easily believe that God is just one misogynist jerk...Wrong,

but many paint Him that way. Thank you God, for your Word, that leads us into all TRUTH.

A CBMW-Correct Christmas Account
The Bible account of the birth of Jesus must be all wrong. According to Christians for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, CBMW, God would never talk to a woman, like He did to Mary. He would have said something as important as that to Joseph. Since they were already espoused, Joseph would have been Mary’s head, and therefore would have authority over her. She would have had no right to agree to carry the Christ Child on her own. Joseph would have had to give her permission, or God would have asked Joseph to do it, since God never asks women to do service of significance. Therefore, Luke 1:26-38 needs go be rewritten in order to line up with the biblical principles expressed in CBMW’s teachings.

read the rest here: http://submissiontyranny.blogspot.com/2009/12/cbmw-correct-christmas-account.html

P.S. On another note, I debated whether or not to keep up the no longer quivering blog on the site, and have decided to remove it. Not because it doesn't not present good arguments against ultra-patriarchy, but after reading it for some time, I believed that the blog should be named along more the lines of what its really about, which is -no longer Christian- not just no longer quivering. And people are free to have their beliefs and I respect that, everyone has to be at peace at what they believe,

but I felt the blog is a bit misleading, because it states No Longer Quivering and I felt that, that meant, no longer in Quiverful groups, etc., beliefs, yet still within the faith, etc. Since I listed it under 'Christian' feminist blogs well, its not really a Christian site, but rather, probably more of an 'anti-Christian' site, so didn't want to mislead readers here, to that regard I removed it from the Christian feminist blogs,

it IS a good site, I do recommend it, and I might re-add it under a different label, but the Christian feminist blogs are blogs by Christian women [meaning, women who believe and live for Christ] but who are confronting the misogyny that is in many of the religious traditions and/or churches...where as, on the No Longer Quivering, its not just confronting patriarchy but rejecting Christianity altogether, so, I didn't feel I could list it under Christian Feminism,

maybe under Feminism. But I do not have a list of secular feminist blogs on this site, I do read them, but I have not listed them here, because that is not my targeted audience. There are numerous secular feminist sites, and many of them are very good,

but I've gone in another direction and want to keep the focus somewhat within the Faith. NOT that this is a requirement for the union, it clearly is not, but in one of my earlier posts, I mentioned that there really wasn't that much interest in forming a Union, per se, within the cottage industry. The class consciousness simply isn't there,

understandable for numerous reasons of which I won't get into here. But over the year my life changed and my faith views changed...not my political views so much or my views on labor, so forth,

and I feel, that there are many Christian women and men, who do feel strongly about these issues and who Want to do more, to not just address them but to change things within their lives/our lives, to make a difference,

that doesn't necessarily go along with the status quo, etc.

So, well, thought I would explain, why the NLQ is on the side bar, its not anything they've done or said, not anything of the sort...just that under the Christian Feminist blog sites, those blogs Do need to be Christian, as to not mislead the readers.

Thank you for understanding,

Jane -- update

UPDATE: I have added some new blog lists to the side bar, and have posted the No Longer Quivering under a different title, thanks to the inspiration from a dear sister. Also, have added some embroider blogs and some new blog inspirational on the Dare to Be Different section.

I have Never cried, over the death of any famous person,

until

today.

And it was odd that I was embroidering a pillow case, that is made with the heavier cotton, an antique sheet that I cut up, because it was stained, one of my reconstruct fabrics...anyway, as I was embroidering a vintage clown on it for my daughter for Christmas,

I remembered one of the movies that God used to touch my life, the movie was "Uptown Girls" and the actress was Brittany Murphy. I had seen Brittany in other movies and I always did love her wit, ability to charm and play a character role and yet, even characters that were not that in your face, you know, Brittany could just open up and reveal what truly lay inside a character....she had a gift for that.

If I remember anything, it was how Brittany could portray the deeper conflicts that her characters had, conflicts over pretense, over fear, over imperfection. Yet Brittany not only portrayed she somehow utilized her character's strength and made each one victorious in their own right. What I loved about Uptown Girls was the irony of the older woman who was childlike and somewhat in denial of the harshness of life, while the younger girl, played by Dakota Fanning, another Brilliant actress, was hardened by neglect and personal trauma. Both characters, reminded me of things in my own life--excluding the wealth,

and it was Brittany's character, Molly Gunn, who I related with, because she reminded me of the 'denial' I lived with the years I was homeless. Though homeless, I had nice clothes from my prior life and I did as much as I could to not 'show' my homeless state, particularly while at work. This I realize later, especially when I look at old photos of that time and I didn't take too many of them, was nothing short of a fantasy because I looked homeless. I was gaunt, thin, pale in color, and my eyes looked like death holes. All the nice clothes in the world, couldn't have hid the pain that lay deep beneath my heart...though I sure did try.

Anyway, years later, when I saw that movie, God just used it to touch me, to remind me that no matter what life throws our way, we do NOT have to lose our inner child, that innocence, who we truly are. And what is interesting, it was later through picking up the embroidery and sewing again, that I got back in touch with the creative side of me that I had long buried and well,

Egyptian Cotton, just sort of seems fitting. Not only that, my business that I am working on is all about reconstructing old garments--which is what Molly Gunn had done in the film, to her lover's jacket--she reconstructed it,

not only did she reconstruct the jacket, she reconstructed her life. And that is what God does isn't it? He reconstructs our lives, from plain, drab, dull and death to the finest of woven threads...IF we let Him.

Anyway, so I'm embroidering today and my daughter comes in to inform me that the actress on one of my favorite movies had died, I asked her which one and she said, the older one. I was shocked--she was young, was she not? So, sure enough,

Brittany died on Sunday, only 32 years old.

Like I said, I'm not one to cry or get all hyped up over famous actresses and singers and so forth, its not been one of my things, I guess, I've actually thought maybe I was a bit callous because when some of the famous people have died I am kind of like, yea, well, people do die.

But not this time...this time, I suppose a famous person died, way too young, a person that who would have thought...just doing her job, doing what she loved, touched me, and inspired me...to look at life differently and not to be bitter. Brittany, maybe you didn't know how God used you,
but He did.

And, still is....the reports say, that there were anxiety pills, etc., well this wouldn't be too surprising with the stress and the whole market of Hollywood and fame, now would it? It is, after all, a very competiative market and a cut throat one at that. And its a market that women really do feel the pressure to be ridiculously Thin, to not have any physical normalities, I say normalities because the idea of Hollywood-Media perfection simply isn't HUMAN,

and of course, Ageism is particularly a demon in Hollywood, especially for women. So, I'm not surprised that many actresses and actors, media entertainers, etc., do turn to drugs, either legal or illegal, are you? Who could live that life under the constant strain and watch of the society? They live literally like bugs under the microscope,

but what is horrid, is that its the Public, who demands this feeding frenzy. We need stars, so we think, we need those lives that take us from our own dull, drab lives, meanwhile, we sit and live vicariously and life passes us by--IF we are taken up by that whole dream world. And that dream world, influences everything from consumption to politics to relationships. How many of us, have at one time, had unrealistic expectations because of what we see on Images? Through Images?

Its funny because God says, 'Thou shall not carve any graven image to bow down and worship' and we always think that is just totem poles and cement carved cows. Not so,

I believe they can be images in our minds, from either our own creation or following the 'images' of others. To worship them--exactly what is worship? Is it just singing in front of someone, telling them you adore them? I don't think so, because many times the Bible says, that 'they worshiped the things of silver and gold made with their hands, of wood, copper, etc., even iron',

and that those things have not life nor can they speak, love, etc.

And we do -- Do that...we love the things that human kind has created, All of course, which we forget, come from something that is made from the natural environment made by God. But we take those things and we mold them and we carve them and we weave them and we make 'things' and then we prop them up, as the icons of human endeavors and success,

and yet, we are Miserable.

Why is that?

We can have a home and life full of THINGS, just like those guitars in Uptown Girls, sure, they have sentimental value,

but we can't eat them, we can't dance with them, we can't hold them and they hold us back...eventually,

we all die, and the things remain--either to be sold, auctioned, passed on, thrown out, burned up, rusted through, you name it...those things, one day, will wind up either in a landfill or in someone's attic.

But people, people are flesh and blood---

so, in closing, I will miss you Brittany Murphy, and as I finish the embroidery on this pillow case, I will remember how your work touched my life--my heart,

and may I remember, that no matter how many things or loss of, this life,

is just that, its a fading flower, but God is eternal. And for me, Jesus, is the one thing, that never passes away or fails,

because in Him, is eternal life--and in Him,

the child in me, Never, has to die.

IN rememberance,

Jane

ACTION ALERT--BOYCOTT--RECYCLE, RECONSTRUCT, OR SHOP FOR COTTON NOT MADE BY SLAVES, THIS CHRISTMAS

End Child Labor in the Cotton Industry!

Uzbekistan is the second largest cotton exporter in the world. Every year, the government of Uzbekistan forces thousands of children and teachers out of the classrooms and into the fields to harvest cotton. They work under harsh conditions, live in crowded barracks and miss out on valuable time in school.

The cotton these children are forced to pick ends up in the clothing we buy. While many companies have agreed to stop sourcing cotton from Uzbekistan, some are lagging behind.

Please join our efforts today to eradicate the use of forced child labor in Uzbek cotton fields and demand that Abercrombie & Fitch, Fred's, Gymboree and J Crew stop sourcing cotton from Uzbekistan.

Send a letter to the following decision maker(s):
Bruce Efrid, CEO, Fred's Inc
Customer Service J Crew
Customer Service, Abercrombie & Fitch
Jeff Harris, Gymboree
Matthew McCauley, CEO, Gymboree
Michael Hayes, Chairman, Fred's Inc.
Michael Jeffries, CEO, Abercrombie & Fitch
Millard Drexler, CEO, J Crew

Below is the sample letter:

Subject: Are you against the use of forced child labor?

Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],

I am shocked and concerned to learn that thousands of children are being forced from their classrooms to pick cotton in Uzbekistan. Since the International Labor Rights Forum's initial call to companies in 2008 to stop sourcing cotton from Uzbekistan, many companies in the clothing industry have made a commitment to do so, but your company has not.

Your lack of action in the case of Uzbek cotton has resulted in the continued use of forced child labor in Uzbekistan. You can contribute to ending these egregious abuses by joining other brands and retailers within the garment industry that have already been working on the campaign to end forced child labor in Uzbekistan.

I would like to hear from YOUR company specifically that you plan to join the International Labor Rights Forum and the brands and retailers in your industry, who have already made a commitment, in our efforts to end the use of child labor in the cotton fields of Uzbekistan. You can start b y issuing a public statement indicating that your company will not buy cotton from Uzbekistan and that you will notify all of your suppliers of this commitment.

I look forward to you joining our efforts to ensure that no products within the clothing industry are made with forced child labor.

Sincerely,

http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/Uzbekcotton/d8wbgw6417d6j6dt?

SOME WAYS TO AVOID PURCHASING 'COTTON' GARMENTS MADE BY CHILD SLAVES

1. buy organic--or handmade, if possible
2. buy union garments [tee shirts] that will have labeled [non-sweatshop], etc.
3. if you sew, reconstruct what you do have--you can make awesome dresses, shirts, aprons, you name it, from reconstructed tee shirts, skirts, old dresses, etc., as well as making baby toys, children's toys, garments, so forth---there are numerous sites that tell how to make your own gifts, via reconstruction-recycling
4. shop at thrift stores, these clothes are already used and it helps keep the landfills down, as well as helps the job resources for non-profits, etc
5. have a clothing swap-or gift exchange at your church, community, with friends, etc

6. teach your children-teens about the working conditions of other nations/children, sweatshop labor, etc., what really goes behind many 'brand names' and yes, including low end stores, many of their garments are made 'sweatshop', etc., the more children-teens are aware, the more they themselves, will become more ethical 'shoppers', and they may take it upon themselves to learn to sew, exchange, and advocate--to be more conscious of how our decisions/behaviors do effect our neighbors, including across the oceans.

7. learn that quantity isn't always quality, or that 'labels' don't necessarily mean 'quality' either. Learn how to recycle--reconstruct and how to do actual sewing/arts, etc., not only for yourself but teach your children, not only is it good for the environment, good for fair trade, its good for their self-esteem [and yours] and good for learning to be creative, to explore one's creative side. [empowerment] Skills such as embroidery, painting, silk-printing, etc., are good to know and not hard to do, and one can use those to 'remake' an old garment.

8. when you find fair trade companies--anti-sweatshop, be sure to tell people about them, the more support they have, the more the demand will go up--for fair trade garments/items, therefore making it beneficial for corporations to choose to be ethical.

[see update--bottom]

Most, are aware of the sweatshops,

but, are we aware, of the abuses, of children, child labor--in the picking and producing of

cotton?

I will be adding some articles here, on the abuses, in some places where they are down right Horrid, in regards to the

COTTON SLAVERY

that we get our clothes from--

starting with Uzbekistan.

http://www.ejfoundation.org/page142.html

more on this to come later today and this week....so check back

Consumers should:

Demand that all products containing cotton are clearly labelled stating the country of origin of the cotton fibre;
Pick your cotton carefully - refuse to buy cotton products without certain knowledge that they have been produced without causing human rights abuses or environmental destruction;
Choose products which have been certified as fair trade.

MORE INFO, ON THE INDUSTRY OF COTTON, AND THE SLAVERY-EXPLOITATION OF THIS MARKET...

http://www.laborrights.org/stop-child-labor/cotton-campaign

BTW, I first learned, of the 'cotton' exploitation, by stumbling on it, I was fully aware of the sweatshops and how that whole industry works, from corporate to the fashion industry, and I had wondered about the utilizing of what Could be, lands for agriculture for food, being used for cottons,

but I did not know, about the brutality, of the cotton industry, Until I was browsing through a photo archive, by one photographer who does a lot of photography [and who has been threatened by political Islamists because of his photos of brutality in many Islamic countries], and he had done a write up and photo essay of the Suicides, by Cotton farmers, in India. I will go back and pull that section up, to add on to here,

but I simply had no idea, but its like in the flowers [why I don't buy flowers for Valentine's day--another very exploitative slave market] and why I am switching over to Fair Trade chocolate, why I don't buy diamonds any more, because of the blood diamonds, but look, NOT like this is any sacrifice OK, not like I ever BOUGHT diamonds to Begin with, LOL, like Duh...ain't in that money level market, closest thing I get to diamonds is those nice little things called

Glaaaasssss

ah, but anyway, not big on diamonds anyhow, so like, not like here bragging on like these Huge sacrifices, because well, its not sacrifices for me/my family because well, we just don't shop much--no money, ya know,

but still, people need to be informed and well I always shopped either thrift stores or dumpster diving [yea, we Fregans] and well, other than my teen girls, not much of a clothes shopper either. But the reason I got so involved with the anti-sweatshop coalitions, was because of learning about the fashion industry and the ties to the slavery of women, in piece meal work, including in embroidery, which well, then That, that raised my eyebrows...and it took off from there,

long story, one day I might share it, but if you know sewing, you might not know, just the Extent, of the exploitation of Women, because of their caring for children, being more easily exploited, cheap labor, etc., of just how far that all goes, back in history, and how Deliberate the exploitation in Textiles has been. And well, its just corrupt beyond measure and the thing most people aren't aware of, is that Textiles, I do believe, is the second largest Global industry, according to the WTO and IMF. Don't quote me on that, its either second or third, but its way up there, as one of the top five largest,

and, the Most, exploitative and what is NOT really mentioned, is how Women--as CONSUMERS, actually have a lot of power here, and how, sadly, we, as Women, and on this, I blame that whole beauty market-patriarchal 'standard' to be 'accepted' to male desires/mores, actually, Feed into the Slave Market,

every time we shop IF we are not aware. And I say this, NOT to condemn, because many simply do not know,

but I will say, I have run into, those whom I Have informed, who after they do know, simply, do not care--and maybe that is why, I tend to get a little vocal in confronting Privilege, or better, the 'insistence' of protecting privilege and its here, that you really see the Geo-political racism, imperialism, American exceptionalism and well, class and before one says, yea its those white folks,

got news for you, there are Plenty of African Americans and Latinos, that have assimilated into that whole consumerist 'imperialist' exceptionalist culture just as much--Greed has no race--ethnicity or religion, or the rationalizations for, so,

well, lets just say,

its one thing to be Aware of these things, its quite another, to radically change whole consumption lifestyles, particularly if one has teens, long years of habitual shopping, because its NOT something, we like, think about, and may I also add,

often times, the 'ethical consumption' is more geared towards the upper middle classes, who can Afford the higher prices. And fair trade-etc., can be more costly--because they aren't in demand as much as cheap products. For working class--lower middle class to lower incomes--sometimes its simply not an option, to pay $70.00 for a shirt when they can pay $5.00 at Target or Walmart, and the thrift stores, while they are an alternative,

they don't always carry boys clothes, etc., so even if you thrift, you still depend on the 'markets' for clothing, etc. So, I just want to say,

because of this, I will be adding here, other alternatives, for ethical consumption, BECAUSE I know, what it is, to be low income and to also contend with trying to find alternatives--that one can afford, and sometimes its one of those things you just have to weigh, so, no condemnation here, OK,

because there ARE ways, in which we all can help, if anything, to make our voices heard and to Give support, to those who are working for Fair labor practices which btw, is Demanded, by Scripture, in both Old AND New Testaments.

While I'm in no way, Utopian, and believe that all these injustices will change in our lifetime, I do believe, we have a responsibility, at least some, to at least--make an effort, to be more fair, in our consumption, by fair, I mean, more ethical, in how our choices, lifestyles, may effect others, our neighbors, and again,

these are not things you just like overnight, change because consumption, IS after all, a habit. And some habits, are a bit hard to break...oh, you may not think so, but like with the chocolate,

once I started looking into buying only Fair Trade chocolate which there isn't any near us, without driving miles and with no car--you know, makes it kind of hard and the prices, don't help either, but what got me, was just how much, we really use Cocoa, its not just the chocolate but how many products USE cocoa, that is made by child-slaves. More than we think...

so, I decided, because the kids asked, that well, we might not be able to like, forever end all buying of cocoa...but we will do our best. And in meantime, write those letters, to Hershey and Nestle, demanding, that they change their labor practices, and work to inform,

because the MORE people are aware, the MORE social pressure, the MORE the DEMAND then begins to DEMAND, ethical labor practices. And it has to start somewhere...

and that means, Supporting those companies that Do take those cuts in Corporate Profits, when they do decide, to do more ethical and fair trade business. The more we support those, the more they become competitive, and the markets begin to change...

Personally, I don't know why we all can't just get a class action lawsuit and sue some of these Chocolate companies for Mental Cruelty, because to Think, that all those years, especially in my CHILDHOOD, I was eating chocolate that was made by forced slavery, of CHILDREN, who the same age as my youngest--

is Deplorable and I think, and outrage, and I think, that Hershey and Nestle and some of those companies, M&M included, OWE THE CHILDREN WHO WORK IN THESE SLAVE CAMPS, MORE THAN JUST AN APOLOGY--REPARATIONS, AND

THEY OWE AMERICA'S CHILDREN,

A BIG FAT APOLOGY--because if Children really knew, WHAT they were buying,

they wouldn't be too happy about it.

Both of my children, passed on Hanukkah's golden coins {we celebrate both Christmas and Hanukkah} this year Because, they didn't want to eat something, that reminded them of the horrible images of small children being beaten with chains, BY ADULT MEN, for not harvesting cocoa leaves fast enough. It has caused my one daughter some problems--seeing those videos [because she's older and has more understanding] and as a parent, yea, it sort of pisses me off,

because Corporations, are making big bucks, off ENSLAVING KIDS. Kids sold for $30.00 [BECAUSE OF OVERPOPULATION-PATRIARCHY=LOW STATUS OF WOMEN, WAR, AND POVERTY in Africa]...

why I DO support, Birth Control, oh yea...OK won't get into That issue--but well, when children, are sold for $30.00 to be beaten, so we can buy cheap consumer goods,

Something, is really Sinister and EVIL about the whole economic framework that institutes that.

Anyway, come to find, its not much different in cotton either, not only that but cotton, industry, pulls a LOT of resources, from land AND water due to irrigation, water in places where water is rare AND the people, are impoverished. AND as one, who has been a dumpster diver for YEARS and has first hand knowledge of the MEGA AMOUNT OF CLOTHES WASTE IN THIS NATION,

there is simply, no excuse for pillaging and raping the land--for cotton production and on top of that--to do this labor--via SLAVES?

so, yea, I'm gonna be posting a lot here, about these things because well, we need to know.

Let me close in saying, while I am dead set opposed to the unethical practices of capitalism, I in no way, any longer, support the left parties--or the political 'agendas' of those who Manipulate these issues, who are Just as despotic, as the imperialists and the capitalist-corporations are...and Why is that?

Well, will tell you, because many of them, have joined forces, with Political Islam--and they see nothing wrong with enslaving women [in the most brutal and Inhumane ways] and not only that, while they are opposed to Western Religions--due to the history of imperialism,

well, Ironically, in Islam, Slavery is not only tolerated--its condoned and supported by Hadiths. Look at Sudan--

and so, to say, on one hand, one is Marxist--and then, support a religion, that is pro-Slavery, well, its sort of an oxymoron...in my opinion...

you don't end slavery/wage slavery by embracing a system that is rooted in the beliefs of SLAVERY, like, uh, DUH, knock knock, anyone there? You know,

[and if one doesn't believe that, do some looking into the torture and oppression of the Communist Worker Party in Iran--and yet, we have idiotic 'leftists' and 'liberals' here in This country, who march along side, the very ones who one day, will yes, indeed, enslave them--the leftists in other nations, KNOW THIS,

but for some reason, there tends to be some either denial or complete stupidity in America AND in Europe over this. Even commies-socialists and union leaders in former Soviets, know a bit more, about the dangers of compromising with fundies on this one...[though, we won't get into the hypocrisy of the commies there--with that reality of capitalism for the elites--feudal Slavery for the masses, but eh, I speak as a one time, supporter of that whole ideology'.

Regardless, though, I never embraced capitalism nor will I--but I do believe, there has to be some other 'alternatives' other than state social engineering, selling out to the Dark Ages and/or embracing complete anarchy [been there, done that one too], LOL,

well--I think one solution, is women centered economics--another issue, another time,

and well, what DID surprise me, was the Voluntary 'communal' distribution in the Bible--from hearts of Love--not by coercion,

and it was one scripture, that Marx often quoted, many think its his own--to each according to his needs,

well guess what, its in the Bible--read the book of ACTS. It was, the First Church--who claimed that one.

Bet many didn't' know that, eh?????

One more thing, and this is another area where I really butted heads with many in the far left in those days [when I was a party member], and its on the state--protection of children, which often times, is really not protection, but is more exploitation on a whole other level. Allow me to explain,

one one thing, that I would disagree with, with the labor front--international, is in regards to child labor--its not 'enough' to say, end child labor WITHOUT replacing the NEED for that labor, with alternatives, because IF WE DON'T,

THEN THOSE SAME CHILDREN, ARE VULNERABLE TO TRAFFICKING-SEXUAL TRAFFICKING ESPECIALLY.

Now, the capitalist will USE that fact, to perpetuate the 'excuses' to justify child labor, or to sweep them under the rug, etc., and the leftists will use the children to target capitalism yet once the economy has been pulled out, even though yes its exploitative, they tend to leave the children vulnerable to Other predators and those predators are in the left as well as the right--so, this is where I think, a women centered or feminist [true women centered, not misogyny masked as feminism] economics-fair trade is in order. I would suggest, Until there is either a better market [labor] or means for families to make enough to support themselves, to make fair labor practices While cutting hours, and making education available for these children--that way, they aren't cut off at the knees OR exploited,

that is only one suggestion. I also think, this is Really, where Empowerment, Economic Empowerment for Women-Mothers really is important, because a lot of the child-labor IS due to the low status of women, who can't get work that pays enough, to support AND the patriarchal low status of women in many societies, that force women to be pregnant--in abusive marriages, etc., who can't work, because they always have young kids to care for--leaving the older Kids to have to work--to support families.

In other words, its an oxymoron to say on one hand, lets end child labor, but on the same hand, be tolerant or apologetic towards Cultures that oppress and subjugate mothers, e.g. women, and think, that child labor will end. It may end, but it won't end completely, it will only be transferred to trafficking,

which, one one hand, at Least--if children are employed locally, they can be monitored with Labor unions, if they are trafficked to other nations, with different languages, in sweat shops OR in worse--sex slavery-legalized prostitution [oh, Holland is the WORST] where there IS no rescue or help for these kids--

and they can't be monitored there--and many wind up dying, either of AIDS or torture/mutilation, etc., which is why, the support of Porn--the demand for legal prostitution which 'normalizes' that whole market--[which ironically, is supported by today's hypocritical LEFT], is also, a part of the whole problem--and I include this, because its that whole sex industry, that guess what,

is supported by big Corporate Lawyers and big business conventions all over the big cities--to entertain--those big business elites. Corrupt, you betcha,

it gets really nasty.

So like with many things, you can't end one form of exploitation and be 'sympathetic' towards another and Expect real change to come about--and what is so funny, both Marx AND Lenin, said as much,

and why they were opposed to the more 'liberal' forms of what they deemed as Bourgeoisie Liberal Socialism.

Hate to say it, but on Those points--they were 100 percent correct. So--taking All that in mind, there needs to be, a more wider solution, targeting the problems of economy, so that, in one form or another, these children AND their families, don't fall between the cracks. And part of that solution,

is where WE come in...demanding Fair Trade, Ethical Labor-Living Wages-and an end, to Fraudulent practices.

Jane

more on this later, Peace

Jane

I am cross posting this, a reply I wrote today, regarding Qfull women, this 'notion' that having twenty babies with no pain meds and all that dark ages bunk,

makes women holier.

BULL

Got news for you Sisters, you're willful obedience to oppression is not a ticket to Heaven, [or non-willful], if that were the case, Jesus would have said,

submit to male oppression and you'll get to Heaven.

But He didn't say that, He said, Repent, be Born Again, that what is IMPOSSIBLE, get that, IMPOSSIBLE with men/women, is NOT IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD, etc etc etc

HE SAID, NO MAN, NO WOMAN, CAN GET TO HEAVEN, BUT THROUGH

having twenty kids? being beaten by husband? submitting to your own rape? refusing medical care? wearing certain clothes? obeying the Law?

NO, NO, NO, NO,

but how?

THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, THROUGH 'BELIEVING ON HIM', OBEYING HIS WORD, no where, NO where, did Jesus say, women, have all these kids, refuse medical [and Jesus HEALED -- TO SAY MEDICINE IS EVIL, IS TO EQUATE HEALING WITH EVIL---UH, LIKE, DUH],,

no, He said, to REPENT, to walk in LOVE, to Reach out to the Poor, to be Honest, to be Humble before God,

not about 'works', or this nationalist--political zealot type of twisting of the Gospel,

hardly. So, why then, do we Glorify the LIE?

I won't--I think, these CULTS, should be exposed for what they are, CULTS, nothing more. FALSE TEACHINGS, FALSE PROPHETS, FALSE BELIEFS---

if willful suffering which is NOT the suffering Paul talks about, which was suffering According to the Will of God, sharing with Jesus, HIS suffering, which was rejection from the world--from the world's view of 'making their own righteousness' and not submitting to God's righteousness--and the rejection of God--sharing in THAT suffering, the Suffering, caused by PERSECUTION when you WORK OR LABOR IN JESUS, FOR THE SAVING OF 'SOULS', not having babies for crying out loud....which has been so conveniently 'twisted' today by the false prophets, who in sheep's clothing are inside, ravening wolves [Jesus said so] and like Paul said, 'they only want to make merchandise or feed off of you], etc., and the one place you can really see this work, is the teachings to women, telling them, its their 'duty' to Suffer for God, by suffering under the hands of despots, men and CULTS. CULTs, that like the Dominion movement, have more in common [and I believe they are seriously just arms of a more 'sinister' movement, a very political and anti-semitic movement--fascist] with the Mutterland--Nationalist--be it right wing or left wing or Islamist--its NOT about Christianity, its USING the Bible-Christianity to push for a one world or nation--of one kind of people, under the rule of Despotism and FASCISM...its a FALSE CHRIST. I think, personally, its one if not THE Anti-Christ.

and you know something, ITS BUNK--AND NEEDS TO BE CALLED ON, for what it is, point blank. Call a spade a spade,

if 'suffering' under the oppression of selfish men made us holy and all that--hell, every one in Prison will go to heaven. You know, its just moronic,

and yet, we glorify this garbage, in so many Christian circles, as not to 'offend', but what is really, offensive,

perpetuating a LIE that does actually lead to the suffering and misery of Millions [because those mentalities are linked worldwide] or telling the Truth, to set the captives Free from the lies of Satan?

Women being manipulated and BRAINWASHED and OPPRESSED and COERCED into doing things that are dangerous, to themselves and to their children, to their health, etc., is NOT

holy--

its Demonic. So, lets call a spade a spade shall we, lets stop glorifying the oppression of women, in the name of Christ--because no where, in the Bible, did Jesus say, Women, put yourselves or remain willfully in situations where you are brutalized or forbidding care, to become 'holy' for me, NO where, does it say that. In fact, it says the opposite, Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the Church and GAVE HIMSELF UP FOR IT,

it wasn't the Church who died on the Cross, it was Jesus who died on the Cross, Jesus, without Sin...

today, by far, its the opposite, that is taught, its the women, who are being told, to 'give up their lives, their flesh, their souls even, to 'save' their husbands,

SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG with that picture. So, women, having twenty children, refusing medical care [at your risk even], being a 'slave', submitting to your rape, submitting to violence, guess what,

doesn't make you Holy--it makes you Foolish. [sorry but seriously, its not Holiness--its Will Worship, its no different that those who think they'll get into Heaven by walking on coals of fire and beating themselves with whips].

My reply

“We are very strong women. We had to be or we would have broken under the weight of our responsiblities and burdens a very long time ago.”

Is it ’strong’ or ASSIMILATED?

I think there is a huge difference,

strength, I believe, is that strength to question, Oppression, and to rattle the chains, to question the chains and to do what is necessary, within obedience to God, to one day say,

no more, being a ’slave’ to Satan and Sin and to Bondage.

I don’t think just because a woman becomes hardened and assimilated and internalizing ‘her oppression’ that is a strength,

if anything, its resignation. If it was strength, then women in prison are strong, women in Islam are strong, children who are abused are strong,

but truth is, THEY AREN’T STRONG, if anything, they are DAMAGED.

The whole ’strong’ thing is nothing but an ‘illusion’, used to deceive ourselves or others, that somehow, the more oppressed someone is, the ’stronger’ they are…

and why women buy into that load of crock, who knows, but we do…maybe because its been the measuring stick of ‘our supposedly value’ in an oppressive patriarchal society/sub-societies, that the stronger we are, the more we ‘endure’ the crap, somehow that we become ‘better’ than those ‘weak’ women who do not live under the same oppression.

Sure, not saying there isn’t a ’strength’ that comes from years of being oppressed, but its not inner strength, no, its hardening…beat someone enough times and eventually the skin hardens. You know, hearts are the same way,

and for some reason, I don’t think that kind of ’strength’ is a good one, nor is it the kind, that God wants us to have,

I always thought, it was ’strength in the Lord’s spirit and in His might, not ours’? that mattered,

Personally, I don’t find it ’strong’ that a woman endangers herself and her health [and maybe endangering her children if God forbid she dies and an abusive asshole of a man has them to himself with no protection] by having child after child, with no health care, no precautions, etc., I think

point blank, its down right stupid, and as one who Yes, did have two homebirths, not because of patriarchy but because I believed and still do, in the Women having empowerment over her birth [be it at home or in hospital, when MEN have those babies, then by golly, then they should have those controls, I've yet, to see ONE man, spit a baby out of his penis...and whether its forced meds or forced non-meds, MEN, get the Fn' out of our wombs and out of our births], but anyway,

though I had two homebirths, I still, believed in preparation, including what to do IF I needed to go to hospital, having alternatives to pain, etc., in other words, I did my research,

because I believed that it was my Human Right, it is, after all, my womb, my body, I do not ‘lose’ that just because I belong to God or to a ‘man’ per se,

and though I had two homebirths, I also had two in hospital, when I was high risk, with epidurals, want to know something,

big deal, having a homebirth with no pain didn’t make me a better woman or a stronger one, hardly,

the heart is Just as sinful…it gains no awards nor does it deserve Merit, either way.

So, this whole b.s. glorification of the strong ‘martyr’ woman who has twenty children [at her own risk and risk of others as Well as perpetuating the myth that DOES LEAD MILLIONS OF WOMEN TO THEIR PREMATURE DEATHS IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT HAVE MEDICINE AND PRENATAL], and all that,

I’m sorry, but I don’t glorify it and I don’t think we should. I don’t see them as strong,

I see them as STUPID.

Sorry, but I do. [and I say that, admitting that I have been STUPID so many times in my life]

I realize stupid is a harsh word, but the Bible refers to it as FOOLISHNESS,

and Jesus said, just like other evils, that foolishness comes out of our evil hearts,

and the lifestyle of ‘risking’ one’s health, Deliberately, to prove one’s strength or super holiness, to me, is yes, Foolishness,

its will – worship, NOTHING ELSE. And while I realize that the women in those CULTS have little choice–I don’t think, we do them or any other woman, any service, by portraying in Any form or way, some fallacy of ’strength’ or holiness the Oppression, of women. Actually, in the Qfulls, lets call it for what it is, shall we,

slavery, sex slavery and chattel slavery.

Nothing more, and if you really want to peel the layers and tell it like it is, lets call it what it really is too, on the nationalist side,

Mutterland.

It has more in common with the Hitler-Mussolini plan of ‘nation via how many babies can you pop out] than it does with Anything, Biblical.

I, a Christian, have no qualms about confronting the political ‘manipulation’ of Christianity, especially where the ultra-right and fertility cults are concerned, and I will in no way, glorify the oppression of women,

or in this misleading, by saying that ‘oh they are so strong’,

no they aren’t, they are OPPRESSED, and most likely, very damaged on the inside.

By saying they are ’strong’ is I think, giving them credit where credit shouldn’t really be given, because its that ‘myth’ that is the framework of so many women being oppressed,

I think its tragic, really tragic.

I don’t know but when there is ‘choice’ to actually progress some from the curse–I think, to remain in that curse, as some show of will worship–super holiness [that is based on human merit, not on Christ] is just ludicrous,

and here is where the hypocrisy can really be seen. Oh these women are strong, blah blah because they have twenty children and wear long hair and they are obedient to that whole ‘curse’ garbage,

meanwhile, I don’t see those men, living under THEIR supposedly curse–do YOU?

NO, in fact, those lazy sex driven ‘thugs’ transfer their farming and work ONTO ALL THOSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN,

while they in turn, sit on their asses, at the gates,

I don’t call those Holy Men, I call them,

the equivalent of the lazy asshole men who sit around the projects and wait for the first of the month for those welfare checks.

Seriously, and its really the same ‘mentality’ whether its Islamic nationalism or the tribal morons in Africa who force the women to do ALL the work while they rape and kill [or neglect women to their deaths] or the machismo moron in many countries or the yee haw misogynist in many a church,

and the women who play that role, that subservient obedient role, who say,

oh we’re so much holier than you,

well, I’ll say it,

no, you’re not holier, you’re just still in chains and have no consciousness of it yet,

that’s all. But you’re not holier…

in fact, there is NO FLESH, JUSTIFIED
UNDER THE

LAW.

So, prostitute, or Quiverfull,

guess what, you’re in the same damn boat….

and all those babies, all that sacrifice and willful suffering,

ain’t gonna save you, any more than the prostitute buying her way in,

its the Blood of Christ,

and ONLY that,

the Cross.

So, no, I don’t think, they are stronger, or that its ’strength’,

I think, its hardening…

and I really think, its time, to stop glorifying the oppression of women in all its forms, especially under the lie of will worship, in these CULTS,

and they are cults—make no mistake about it, they

ARE CULTS.

And so, no, I won’t give them or that sort of martyrdom crap that has NOTHING to do, with the Gospel or the Kingdom of God,

any glory,

because it simply,

doesn’t deserve none.

just my two cents

Jane

Wow, you know, when the Holy Spirit illuminates-heals, He just blows me away sometimes. Allow me to explain,

I have, for YEARS struggled with the destruction of my 'soul' from child abuse [my mother hated me, literally, not an understatement] and the repeated destruction from men, whom I looked to for love, and then the church, the patriarchy-misogyny then the politics and well, you name it, I looked and sought. However, in the meantime, not too long after my first marriage [after I became a Christian, I had been common law married before to a very abusive man when I was barely 17, having run away from home] and being in a very 'ultra-conservative' religious community, the Seeds of Hate, Hate of Soul, germinated in me, and I became, just as hateful and prejudice and bigoted as those haters of souls over me, though mine was covered in a sweet fake veneer of 'religion', Christianity and well, just flat out deceived. And it grew from bad to worse...and that is what Jesus means when he says, they receive the Word with joy but they fall away after temptation, Because their hearts have no 'root' in them, or their hearts are 'hard', or they receive the Word [Jesus] with joy and live for a bit then the Cares of this world CHOKE out the Word[Jesus] and they eventually fall away...again, a shallow-hard Heart,

but then, the Good and Honest Heart--receives Jesus, the Word, and KEEPS the Word, and bears fruit UNTO COMPLETION.

The heart is like a garden, in the OT, God says to break up the fallow ground. Now, we, We can't 'reform' an evil heart, God has to give us a new one...or recreate one, not sure how that works but I know, from my experience, at least, that for this to happen, its like an onion, layers upon layers have to be peeled away, to Expose, the true state of the heart,

guess what, it ain't too pretty.

Now, this is what I didn't realize, the Soul, is a bit different....I always thought they were sort of the same, I'm not so sure how that all works, like the soul, spirit, heart, and all that, but I had been lead to believe, or Did believe, that God hated my soul, that well, He wanted to save my soul but it was something that He really hated...therefore, my soul had to 'die'. The teachings, especially women, hear from the church, is that we are to Die to Self. That, to the abused child-woman-and yes, sometimes man, sounds more like this:

'your soul is bad, therefore your soul has to die, before you can be accepted by God'.

For women, under misogyny, their 'soul' is not only bad, its downright EVIL, to the Misogynist, and therefore, is either, non-existent because its only the man's soul that matters or it needs to be destroyed, ERASED, by whatever means necessary.

And the thing is, the Word, even when it is used to elevate, to the Damaged Soul, that same Word, has the power to reinforce the murder of that soul. The thing is, its so difficult to understand this...until someone has been in that position...and what happens, is then that soul, becomes turned all upside down, with that evil heart, and then like an abused child, lashes out, and learns, to hate Itself, AS WELL AS HATING EVERYONE AROUND IT, even if they 'love' underneath that love, that 'hate' is always there, breathing, just waiting for a chance to get out and do its destructive work. That is what it means, when Paul says, pray that they will see and be delivered or no, deliver themselves OUT OF THE SNARE of the devil who has TAKEN THEM CAPTIVE, to do

HIS WILL--SATAN'S WILL.

NOT God's will, no, God is NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DESTROYING SOULS,

that is, Satan's business.

And where does it begin?

IN CHILDHOOD.

Jesus said, the Kingdom of God, is children, forbid not the children to come unto me FOR SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD. He said this a couple of times, along with WOE TO THOSE WHO OFFEND ONE OF THESE 'LITTLE ONES' WHO BELIEVE IN ME.....

Why, WHY did Jesus say this?

Because Satan, begins his destruction of the 'soul', our Personhood, in Childhood, and he does so, quite brilliantly, through the most deceptive guise there is,

PATRIARCHAL RELIGION.

Why Jesus said, if YOU being EVIL know how to give Good Gifts to Your Children, how much More the Heavenly Father give Good Things to those who ask-seek Him?

I recently wrote, two essays on the wifely submission and the relationship to the pedophile fantasy, see here and here:

http://homesewersneedleworkersunion-hsnwu.blogspot.com/2009/11/wifely-submission-and-its-relation-to_19.html

and

http://homesewersneedleworkersunion-hsnwu.blogspot.com/2009/11/wifely-submission-and-its-relation-to.html

What I didn't realize, is just how much, this relationship and that of the HATRED OF CHILDREN, THEIR SOULS, is

IDENTICAL.

The 'myth' of pedophilia is that its a twisted love for children, NOT, its the HATRED OF CHILDREN, THE HATRED OF SOULS, it is the very nature, of Satan himself. Because its about Lording and Holding Violent Power [or violence through coercion, fear, intimidation, manipulation, etc] over a Child's Soul--for the aim of, Destroying that soul and sucking the life essence out of that soul to be Worshiped, by Force.

Its 'forcing' worship, where God doesn't force Himself on Anyone, but gives Free Will, Satan on the other hand, doesn't care about Free Will, nor does he care about the soul, he hates the soul, the soul created IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

Religion, that uses FEAR, [John, perfect love cast out all fear] is not of God, its of Satan, its that 'you worship me while I destroy your soul or else'. You love me while I destroy your soul or else. That isn't God,

that is from the pits of hell, but its paraded around as Being 'God' all over the place...and its very subtle, very hard to discern, because we learn this, from childhood, some of us way more than others. We see God, as the soul destroyer who really hates us, He just 'tolerates' us, and wants to beat us into Erasure, only to form these pods who worship him without question.

That is the ultimate lie of Satan, to turn us against God.

And the thing is, when we learn to internalize [by no fault of our own] that soul-hatred, of our own souls, by whatever means we have learned that, we learn, we hate, all other Souls. This is why John says,

if you hate your brother-sister, the Love of God is not in you, because God is Love, love of souls. Not love of evil, not Love of wickedness, but love of souls, God loves every soul. God loves every soul so much, that he gave his only begotten son Jesus to Die for our souls, to REDEEM our souls, MALE AND FEMALE SOULS, from being

DESTROYED.

Abuse, be it child abuse or patriarchal abuse, is really, nothing more than the HATRED OF SOULS. To hate women, because they are 'weaker' or thought to be weaker, probably a better term, is the same as hating children,
who works with children, births children? WOMEN,

the hater of souls will abuse-hate children and women, but will also lust after women and children, including sexually, in one form or another. Because the intent is to destroy the soul, of woman, of child or of child.

Forbid them not to come unto me for Such is the Kingdom of God.

To hate a child, to hate a child's soul, to hate a woman,

is the very same as

HATING THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

One cannot, hate woman, hate child, verbally abuse woman, verbally abuse child, physically and/or sexually abuse woman, or child, and be at the same time,

part of the Kingdom of God, because one cannot Hate the Kingdom of God, and try to Destroy the Kingdom of God at the same time.

One cannot 'hate' the Kingdom of God and 'love' the Kingdom of God both,

you're either one or the other.

Now the thing is, then, what is the Love of the Soul? Is it, permissiveness, NO, because permissiveness allows the soul to destroy itself,

but is it then, harsh rigid abuse, to 'mold' the soul, NO, because then the soul can be destroyed, why God says, Fathers, love your children in the nurture, NURTURE AND ADMONISHING OF THE LORD.

God does both...he nurtures, RESTORES the Soul, and he Admonishes, the Soul. When God chastises, [Hebrews] he does not for 'his own selfish pleasure' but FOR OUR OWN GOOD.

NOT to destroy or tear down our soul, but to preserve our souls.

Love, edifies, protects, nurtures, builds up, guards, it does not tear down, render to shreds, beats down, nor erases...

now, does that mean, God won't destroy souls? NO, but which souls does he destroy [and is it really God who destroys souls or SIN that destroys souls?], those Souls that 'reject' Him and His Grace, His Redemption,

so in other words, God is not in the business of destroying souls, to die to self, is not to 'kill your soul' or allow others to 'destroy' your soul or to 'erase' your soul...that isn't what dying to self is, but it surely has been mislead to be that--by those very soul assassins in Religion [and in secular], this is what it means, when Jesus says,

I have come, so that they may Have Life, and have it more Abundantly.

Often many [and I have] believed that means, life here on earth--no, it means, the life of the soul. King David says, God restoreth my soul,

so, for women, and children, to learn that their souls are hated, by abuse, rejection, verbal abuse [words kill] and all other forms of abuses, in the name of God--is really, the work of Satan.

Because if one hates their 'own soul', they will hate other souls as well.

and vice versa....you can't hate others souls and love your own, it don't wash,

because Hate, is the poison, its like a cancer--it destroys. This is why, when many come to God, with those hearts that have been bruised by abuse, their souls poisoned by hate--many do fall away or have a hard time in conversion, because all that poison has to be dealt with, AND if they are still in those environments that in the name of God claim that they are 'less than' or 'only tolerated' by God,

what they are really doing, is what they did when they forbid the children to come unto Jesus, and Jesus said,

forbid them not, for such is the Kingdom of God.

IF the church does NOT address and confront this ugly 'deception' of evil, the hatred of souls, of children, of women, it will grow and poison,
a little leaven leavens the whole lump...

a little 'law' leavens the whole lump
a little 'hate' leavens the whole lump
a little 'poison' poisons the whole batch

the Great Falling Away, I believe, is the falling away from the Love, from the Grace, that leavening, that 'law' and 'hate' and 'hate of souls' and 'poison' that causes people [when they choose to totally give in to those] to fall away from the Love and Grace of God,

because they choose

hate over love.

God is Love, no, not hedonist love, not permissive license to sin love, because love doesn't want souls destroyed,

but God is Love, in that He, created the 'soul' in His image, and He loves each and every soul, and desires not, that any soul,

perish.

He loves the 'soul' so much, the soul of man, the soul of woman, the soul of child, that He gave of himself, His Word made Flesh, and took all our hate and poison, sin, so that we wouldn't have to perish...so that we could be Restored, our Souls, to the image, He first created them To Be.

Souls that are loved and that love...

its not about lordship and hierarchy and some souls count more than others, no, the 'least' is the greatest in Heaven, time and time again, Jesus says this....the last will be first,

to KNOW HIM, is not just to be religious, to follow 'law' oh no, its to KNOW HIM, because HE FIRST

LOVED US,

to Love Him, Obey Him [which is obeying Love] and to Love one another, to Love the Souls, of others,

one cannot hate or work to destroy a 'soul', and know God,

no way....the two simply are opposite.

And that includes, hating one's own soul--

Our souls are like a Mirror, they Reflect, what we see and are, if we 'hate' and only see hate, of ourselves we will reflect that onto others, because if we see God, as hating us, we will reflect that onto others,

what our souls are, is what we reflect.

Mirror, is the image, of who we are....souls restored and beloved, in Jesus,

or souls, destroyed and destroying others, in Satan.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, is ALL ABOUT, SAVING 'SOULS'.

If, we hear a different gospel, a different Jesus, if we hear that its normal in God to 'hate souls' or to have permission or license to 'destroy souls' for whatever reason,

that isn't God....that is, none other, than Satan.

May the Holy Spirit, shed light to all who read this, and please, pass this forward.

[I will reword this, but for now, just writing, what the Holy Spirit showed me this morning and has been for some time now, just now, its like coming together, like a puzzle.]

Peace, Love,

Jane

I am cross-posting a reply, that I made on another blog today, in response to another sermon on man as leader and woman as 'submissive', and something, I've been seeing of late, some 'errors' on both sides, well, most surely on the 'men lead' side, but something I've been noticing on some of the Christian feminist side, well, something that is creeping in, that really is a lot like what I believed while in the world--

and that really begs for 'discernment' because it looks good, but there is something sinister about it, and it is in the 'degenderizing' that will come about--this is the issue that women confronted within 'secular' feminism, in Christian feminism, and its not widespread yet, but its there, and if not confronted, it will spread and its Just as dangerous as the 'man as king woman as slave-dog' teachings, so I will speak on it here,

and its that belief that 'women' who submit are complicit, are sinful, if they are abused. And I saw this, in a paper yesterday on Christian feminism, and its not the first time I've seen this. Now, if one is referring to the 'perpetuating' willingly the hierarchy, with no regard to the suffering it causes to children and to all women, THAT'S ONE THING, but where it can get dangerous, is when it becomes, a denigration of 'nurture' and 'submission' or rather, 'service' as a whole--and THAT, that is what we really want to be careful, to avoid, because then THAT is rebellion, against the LORD GOD, because as Christians, we are supposed to be workers for Christ, not workers of iniquity, and the latter, can be Very deceptive. Its one thing, to lay down one's life for others, its quite another, to join others, as a 'zealot' that is reactionary and rebellious, against All 'service', and it is here, where Judas, is a good example, of one who was a follower of Christ--but who in the end, chose to be a reactionary [revolution caused not by love but by anger and selfishness] and to betray Christ. We have to be Very careful here, this is something God has been showing me, in His Word, what I've personally been wrestling with, praying and yes, sadly, 'service' has been Extremely 'abused' by the Dogs who parade around as Christians [men] and it is NOT fair, exactly,

on the other hand though....we have to be very careful, that we are not falling for the deceptions that the enemy would love to snare us with, that we don't 'fall away' and this, this is something that I feel begs to be put out there, because one, we Don't want to be 'victims' but two, we don't want to become 'dominant' or 'insistent on our way' or abusers ourselves, but not only that, we don't want to 'shun' the appointed call that we are called in Christ Jesus, and that, is yes,

to be a servant. [no matter if they love us in return or if they hate us...our role, as servants in Christ, does NOT change there, in marriages however, this can get tricky, how does one not be complicit in her abuse and especially the abuse of children, and yet, keep that servant spirit, and its not as black and white, I don't think, and it takes a lot of prayer and discernment and a lot of time in the Word of God. I do believe one can be 'submissive' as UNTO THE LORD and still be assertive, to be a servant does not mean, to be a doormat, to be a punching bag, to be 'soul-less', but its IN the assertiveness, that I feel there is some wisdom needed here, and its not easy, within the intimate of spaces. Sometimes I believe we literally have to remove ourselves, and Jesus did say, Flee persecution, pray to be Delivered from Evil, that means, Evil in how one is trapped within something to be forced to Do evil, etc. But, what I am seeing a lot of too, here lately,

is what we really need, is to know what iniquity is, and how to not be workers of iniquity, and I do believe, this is where a lot of spiritual warfare comes in. But, anyway....my reply, on a discussion about 'men as leaders' and women as 'submissive'.

REPLY
I prefer not to even use the term 'submit' anymore because its been so abused, like many political cliches, its lost its true meaning. Same with headship, leadership, all of it.

I do want to mention though, something that I thought, in regards to 'leadership'. I know few men who are leaders, seriously. And so if I may, I will take another form of example, of 'leadership' to show something,

in All militaries, the 'leaders' of war, are the ones, who started out as the grunts. They don't become 'leaders' because they are placed there, they EARN their way to leadership, by first, being a SERVANT. And a SERVANT, who yes, is commanded, to OBEY and to lay down his-her life, with no retort. Would we really want to 'follow' someone in the military in a war zone, who had not known firsthand, how to fight? Would we want to follow someone in a dangerous situation who did not know firsthand, how to discern evil, how to protect his troops? Would we want to follow a leader who is stubborn, refusing to take wisdom from others, including maybe someone with a special gift in his unit?

Absolutely not, and it is for this reason, that the 'men' in their system of warfare have always demanded the ultimate sacrifices BEFORE THEY ALLOW ONE TO LEAD OTHER MEN. [excluding the administrative offices, that is, I'm focusing here on actual combat]

To be a leader, one must First, know what it is to actually be a Servant...the problem with the church's teachings, is that they omitted the 'have to be a servant' first which IS in the Bible, all over the Bible in fact, and put the emphasis on 'submit' on the woman. Men today aren't men, they are spoiled, immature, cowards, who most likely, no, Wouldn't step in front of a bullet to protect their wives. But they sure insist, on their 'rights' and 'entitlements' to lead and to assert their kingship.

Paul, himself, was an Example of true Leadership. And how, was he some softie who demanded respect as a Super Apostle, as a Shepard? NO, in fact, the other way around,

he worked around the full time [overtime] ministry he had so he would not be a burden to Anyone, he bore the marks of suffering in his own body, beatings, imprisonments, hunger, want...he gave his entire all to the betterment and the care of the flock, even to the point of his saying he was in distress until he knew, they were of good comfort and faith [Thel], THIS, was a LEADER.

He was a servant First, and foremost, and if Paul had of been married, I'm sure, he would not have been insistent on his 'rights' as he was totally devoted and had 'reverence' and 'fear' of the Lord [and he says so many times] and he would have treated his wife like a queen.

THAT, is what being a leader is, today, its the total opposite, today, its Iniquity that is celebrated, and manifested as the 'qualities' of leadership, in the perverse way that its taught in today's apostate church. This isn't just in marriage, its in the leadership in churches, in work, in parenting, you name it,

its so perverted today, that no wonder, there is so many problems today in relationships. The mystery of iniquity is running rampant, with total impunity, with the blessings of the 'false church teachings'. The issue isn't about 'roles' but about the perversion of what Service is, our Duty to serve the Lord with reverence and fear, no matter WHAT GENDER OR WHO WE ARE OR WHAT STATION IN LIFE WE ARE IN,

and THAT, THAT is what is truly lacking in our church and in our so called Christian marriages-families. Rather, today we have a 'secular' even 'pagan' interpretation of leadership-submission, with male as leader [undeserved and without merit] and woman as slave [undeserved and without glorifying the Kingdom of God because she is playing the role of Hagar, not Sarah], and this is why, I believe, we are having the problems, especially the passing down of iniquity,

to children and to their children. As a woman, who is yes, a radical feminist, who has grown and lived years with abuse [from childhood which was the root, of so much damage--the iniquity in our family that God has even shown me in what you would term a paranormal way, where I started asking Jesus, what is iniquity and how to break it], anyway, I have struggled with the iniquity within myself, both as a 'victim' of abuse [and living that continually in subconscious and that seed germinating in Me and being passed down] and with the iniquity in spouse that I was drawn to because it was what I knew, I married my childhood abuser time and time again. Why yes, one can be oppressed and be an oppressor too, and BOTH have to be broken.

Where we have to be careful, regarding submission, and something I am seeing a lot of today, is that we don't 'throw' service out the water with the baby, so to speak. Lately the teachings have been the blaming of women/abused of 'sin' for being complicit, for serving, loving, etc., this is wrong too, there is a very fine line, between 'enabling' and 'being a servant' or 'walking in that submissive love that Christ has worked in us', it is there that the enemy, can really do his dirty work, and walking out of that 'internalized abuse' yet remaining in Christ, is I think, where the test really comes in, and maybe this is why Paul stressed, submit 'AS UNTO THE LORD'. In the OT, in Chronicles, where it talks about the ruler of Syria, King Shis something or another, and God said to one of the prophets [don't have my Bible here, I'll get it in sec and put where] that He wouldn't' destroy Israel but that He would allow them to serve this evil king, so that they would 'learn service, as it is in the Kingdom of Heaven', etc.

If I have learned anything, this past year, struggling with these issues, it is on the issue of being a servant, what that really means, for All of us, and how it has been distorted and abused in the church [and in our world] against women,

on the other hand, how its also been ridiculed even by some who are rising up against abuse, in Christianity--here its very similar to the 'anti-feminine' beliefs within the far left, rather than hold Men accountable for their actions, instead, the feminine [or what is said to be] of nurture and caring is under attack, being told its complicit and now 'sin' because it feeds abuse,

both are incorrect. And I believe that is why Peter did mention about submission to those who are harsh--but here begs for wisdom, and God gave us Abigail, to show us, wisdom, she wasn't 'submissive' as in 'obeying no matter what', she quite frankly disobeyed her husband when she went to King David, and she struggled with those internalization's because when David asked her to marry [via his servants] she said, 'I'll be a servant to your servants', she had the mindset of an abused woman,

what did David do, he made her a WIFE, in those days, a WIFE, not a concubine, had more rights, in that patriarchal society....so basically, God said, 'this is how I see women, as Queens, not slaves', [something God showed me, about women and internalized abuse]. Abigail saw herself as a 'concubine', a woman with no worth, though she did Hear from the Lord and she did obey the LORD, not her brute beast of a husband...and because she Obeyed God, rather than submit to abuse-and others being abused, God saved her. And elevated her to the position that God ordained for her.

We could learn a lot from this, but its important to take notice, Abigail did not become elevated, by blind submission, to tyranny, to the point where evil was allowed to take reign, if she had of, she along with the entire family, would have been wiped out. She was a woman of wisdom--obviously, spending a lot of time in prayer because God used her, to prophesy to David and to keep David from doing 'evil'.

so, my point is, the teachings in the church today on submission and leadership, are so way off from the Bible, they are more about being a 'worker of iniquity' than about Christ, and its here that begs for discernment, and to close,

last night, was reading Thel where Paul talks about 'not having anything to do with the disorderly brother/or sister' so that they will feel ashamed, etc., repent, so forth,

we don't Have that in our churches today, there is no fear or reverence of God, of Jesus standing at the door, the true Judge, no, we have instead, the 'wives' submit and 'husbands lead' and

with no 'service?'. Paul says, we are 'appointed' to suffer, yet, I don't see a lot of Christians [other than abused women] in the West suffering, do you? Something, is really wrong, with the picture,

and I believe, it has something to do with iniquity. The problem isn't learning 'leadership' men, and the problem isn't learning 'submission' women,

the problem is, we are apostate, seriously, and we have no clue, as to what Serving Christ in fear and humility really is, because if we did,

we wouldn't have these ongoing debates within THE CHURCH, which is supposed to be the Body of Christ. We wouldn't have women leaving in droves, and children leaving in droves and going over to paganism and even satanism, because the church, like the OT times, the priests have become political, corrupt, followers of Moloch, rather than followers of God.

And those Moloch followers, always demanded, submission.

Gee, the apple really doesn't fall far from the 'tree' now does it? [tree, of iniquity]

Anyway, what I've been seeing of late...Peace, Jane

PASS IT FORWARD,

it might not be Christian, but you know something,

SIGN ME UP, IN A HEARTBEAT. 'though notice something in the Video, how it was WESTERN INTERESTS, who are against these women and are trying to 'stop their uprising',

gee, I wonder, wonder how many of the Western Interest were Thug Right Wing Misogynist

CHRISTIAN SUPPORTED

ASSHOLES?

DUH, YA THINK?

I read about similar gangs of women in India, couple of years ago, what they didn't tell you in video, that some of these gangs of women, rose up, because the POLICE refused to do anything, to Stop the rampant rapes of women, gang rapes, and WOMEN GOT FED UP,

and started torching the homes of the men who rape. Well, guess what?

Those men, ain't a raping no more. Its not surprising, that it takes, in All social change, the rising up, sometimes, sadly, violence, for the oppressor to take notice, because in All revolutions, against slavery, against oppression,

all the 'talks' and 'diplomacy' in the world ended nothing, instead it only serves to make the oppressor stronger, its when the oppressed, become more in numbers, and one day say, NO MORE, like the woman says, what difference does it make, we Die anyway, we Die fighting or we Die not,

while I am not a proponent of violence, when I see the shit that is going on in the Congo and in Afghanistan and some of these asswipes raping girls and beating children in Quiverfull fertility cult movements and the churches abusing women, and the whole lot of it,

makes me think--maybe its time, to stop talking, and to start taking action.

For one, we can start by STOP KISSING THEIR ASSES AND STOP FEEDING THE MACHINE, literally, I can't tell you how many women continue to support the patriarchy thinking that somehow, one day, in 2009 for crying out loud, that miraculously, men will have a change of heart. I say to that,

BULL.

Animals, have more rights, RIGHTS, to defend themselves, against abuse, than women do...that is Pathetic, seriously,

maybe, it takes the most desperate conditions however, where men can rape and starve and beat and kill women with impunity, that women decide, ENOUGH, no more....

I'm sorry but I raise my hat off to these women, I admire them, I respect them, and you know, I think, we could learn a LOT from them....they obviously, care a lot, about the Future of their daughters,

and here in the West, we have women, literally handing over their daughters, to a future, of slavery, oppression, rape, porn culture, poverty,

and we say, its noble, that its 'good mothering',

to that, I say, KaKa.

If we don't do it for ourselves, hell, at least, do it, for our daughters and our granddaughters, because if we continue to 'wait' for the church to change [believe me, its 2009, if it hasn't yet, and only gotten worse, guess what Virginia, IT AIN'T GONNA] and if we continue to 'wait' for men to become more humane,

we gonna be waiting, until the end of the world, and probably, there will be less women in population, with far more animals, because, Female Animals, DO FIGHT, FOR THEIR SURVIVAL AND THEIR RIGHTS.

So, maybe, FEMALE ANIMALS, know their worth, as Creatures created by God, far more, than us human 'female' animals do,

hmmmmm

Jane

Solidarity,

Jane